THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Divine Human Series: "SHOUD
Questions and Answers
Presented at the Crimson Circle
February 1, 2003
TOBIAS: And so it is, dear friends, that we return to this day of Shaumbra,
our time together. Yes indeed, you have found that the more you release everything
that you thought you were, and release the limitations of the old identity,
you can truly be reborn to have new understandings and insights. You can come
to understand how everything is so very appropriate. When you release the old
identity, you come to discover a whole new self in ways never before imagined,
so filled with love, and energy, and creativity.
At the recent channeling workshop, so many of you had just a hint of this,
had just a hint of what it is like to let Spirit come through you, your own
divinity come forth. You had a hint of what it was like to let go of old concepts
and notions, and be in the moment. You know, the mind would tell you that this
would be so boring. It would have no substance if you let go of everything.
Oh, but dear friends, when you let go, it is like a river. It opens the floodgates,
and everything that was behind it comes through. You see, from the old perspective,
looking at the dam, it looked like only a trickle of water in the stream. What
you could not see was the volume of energy and love that was on the other side
of the dam.
When you let go of the old identity, you become the “nowhere man.”
(Here Tobias is referring to the music played before the Q & A began –
a version of the Beatles song “Nowhere Man.”) You truly can become
everything, everything, a whole new level of experience that is difficult to
describe in words. At that point there is no need to build your identity. You
are all things. It is a joyful experience. It will bring you to your knees when
you understand this, when you understand what it is like to allow Spirit to
dance through you, your spirit to dance, unrestricted, unrestrained.
As you said in Shoud Seven a few moments ago, there is no need to build power.
There is no need to accumulate power and to try to be power. You felt what it
was like to have all the power in the universe, then have it taken away. You
have come to the realization that power is an illusion. You don’t need
power. You already ARE all things.
You don't need to try to build up your identity and your base of power within
yourself. Should another attack you, should a person come after you with words
or with their physical being, you do not need power. You are energy. They will
fly right through you. You will be unaffected.
In the past, you tried to build your base of power. You felt like you were
disconnected from Home and Spirit; therefore, you had to create a house of power
around you. Now, you realize there is no need to do that. Everything you need
is in the moment. What you don't need now is any power in the moment. Why would
you need the illusion of power when it is all right there?
Humans talk about being powerful and strong. They seek it. They desire it.
They go after it. There is no need for that now. Use this in your life. Use
this concept of power as an illusion. Use it in your life. See how that feels.
You may feel a bit naked at first. You may have the tendency not to want to
release that old concept all at once.
A fear might come up from within you, saying, “But, if I let go of all
my power, then indeed something will come in and take me over, consume me.”
Try, dear friends, letting it go. You will discover that no entity or group
can ever consume you… ever. You are unique and whole unto yourself. We
applaud you for this realization, this illusion of power on this day. And with
that, we would be delighted to share in conversation with you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1: Tobias, we were wondering if the large number of
children being given the label of “autistic” are Shaumbra who are
having trouble adjusting to the New Energies? Our grandson is almost three and
has been labeled “autistic.” We have felt since his birth that he
was Shaumbra. Any suggestions as to what we could do to help these children
hold their own and adjust to the energies that seem overwhelming to them?
TOBIAS: Indeed, so many of the enlightened ones who come in now at this time
– who choose you as parents – come in with no base of karma. They
come in so open and clear. But yet they are so sensitive, and they are profoundly
affected by all of the vibrations around them. They are so sensitive that it
throws them out of balance at times, and they cannot hold their focus in this
world as a human. So many of them have chosen you as parents, and guides, and
teachers. They know your energy. Your energy, will nurture them, will protect
They are so open, and they are feeling. But, yet they are having difficulty
in adjusting to everything around them. It is important that they feel safe.
This will help to ground them more than anything. Talk to them. Talk to them
about the safe space that you are creating together with them.
Talk to them about grounding themselves in the love of Gaia… Gaia, such
a precious, precious spirit in herself, such a nurturing and loving spirit.
Have them ground themselves in Gaia. Have them imagine themselves as a tree
of life with the roots going firmly into Gaia and the branches opening up to
the energies from the heavens. Yes, this combination of grounding and bringing
in the divine energy will help with this.
They knew that they chose a difficult role when they came back into this world
as opened and clear humans. And, they do need your constant reassurance…
oh, especially when they are acting out. They want to know, in a sense, that
you will always be there for them no matter what type of feelings they go to.
So, yes, indeed this dear one you mention is Shaumbra… Shaumbra, meaning
family from home, family who has been together before, who was been on a journey
to bring the Divine Human energy to Earth at this time. Shaumbra is not a group
that you need to join. It simply means we have been together before, and we
walk a common path, and we allow the Spirit to unfold while in human form on
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2: Tobias, when someone dies a 3-D death while in a
rage, does that person take with them their anger and limiting beliefs to the
other side of the veil? Can we help those souls who have passed over recently
by sending them with our intent the violet ray of transmutation to help transform
their anger while they are in the astral plane?
TOBIAS: Indeed, this allows us to talk for a moment here about a project for
Shaumbra to work on. We have mentioned it before – this whole issue about
death. It should be worked on while you are on Earth.
You think that when someone dies, all of their problems, all of their misperceptions
or imbalances go away. Dear, dear Shaumbra, it is not that way at all. When
one dies in rage on Earth, they have rage here. It is as simple as imagining
yourself suddenly without physical body. The consciousness does not necessarily
change, especially for those who are not in an enlightened state.
When Shaumbra comes back over, they generally understand the transition process.
They understand that they do not have to carry duality with them. But, for the
vast majority of humans, when they are in rage, they come here in rage. When
they are in a place of very limited and harsh beliefs about God, they come here
As we have said before, there are millions, and millions, and millions of humans
who have left the Earth plane, who have come back here, and are waiting. They
are waiting to be judged. They will not listen to the greatest of the angels
who come by to visit them. They are waiting for Jesus to come to save them and
to judge them.
When we approach them, they do not let us in because they are waiting for this
one entity. We’ll have you know that even Yeshua, the energy of Sananda,
has walked amongst them, and they have not recognized it. They have said, “It
is a trick.” So, we are really not sure what they are waiting for!
When a human crosses over, so many times they do not even get all the way back
to us. Their energy stays in a somewhat Earth-bound state. They understand that
they are no longer walking in physical body, but they do not allow themselves
to fully come over to our side. What generally happens is, for a very short
period of time, they stay bodiless.
Then they feel the strong pull to immediately come back into human form. They
do not spend time reviewing their lifetime. They do not spend time talking to
the “angelic analysts” on our side. (audience laughter) They want
to jump right back into duality. So many times they have anger and rage within
them. They have imbalance, and they grow up with this.
This is difficult, for there needs to be a transition period between lifetimes.
But so many do not choose this. There are humans who come back into human form
days or weeks after they depart. You will see this so often when they are killed
in a war. They want to come back in to be with a loved one. It pulls them back
immediately to Earth.
We are encouraging you to work with the subject of death and transition in
the Shaumbra University. The New Energy death is about how to leave the physical
body gracefully… how to release before you go… what to expect when
you get here.
Oh, there will be those who challenge you. Yes, yes, they want to believe there
is a line for judgment over here, a great line of sinners waiting to be judged.
They want to believe that there are certain levels of heaven they are accepted
into based on how much they donated or what they did in their lifetime.
None of these things, dear friends, are reality. Does it even make common,
human sense that these things would be true? We think not! So, we thank you
for this question and the opportunity to pontificate a bit. (audience laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3: I have recently been given an Old Energy book to
read called “I Am That” written 30 years ago. I only scanned it,
and basically the message was identical to what Tobias has told us – go
within, get out of the mind, and stay in the Now moment. You are not the name
on the driver’s license. It’s all an illusion. So, how will the
New Energy affect the ones that will be looking in 30 years from now? Will it
be quicker or easier for them? Tobias has said that the angels who will incarnate
in the future will not be able to bypass and go to the New Earth. Does that
mean that the message will still be the same?
TOBIAS: Dear friends, if you look at your books of wisdom over the course of
modern history, you will see our message repeated over, and over, and over again.
We say it in many different ways because there are many different ears that
listen. But, the core message is the same. The Truth is the same:
Y O U A R E G O D A L S O.
And, Cauldre we are still waiting for that book to come out! (audience laughter)
But, dear friends, there are those of us on our side of the veil who talk to
many of you in order to ground that message over and over again. I, Tobias,
have been involved with many humans over the course of recent times, working
to bring forth this message. Most of them (and you), do not realize that they
are channeling, but they are.
And, we will continue giving the message – YOU ARE GOD ALSO. You are
Divine Humans. It is all contained within you. For the great master of love,
Yeshua, this was his simple message. But it was distorted over and over again
by the churches, so we have to keep bringing it back through new voices and
Yeshua would meet another human on the road. He would tell them, “The
Father is within you. God is within you. You are God. Do you want healing? I
cannot heal you. I can do no miracle for you. But, I can show you how to heal
yourself. I can show you how to come back into balance.” There were many
who followed his words. There were many who ridiculed Yeshua. There were many
twho followed his words and learned what it was like to have Spirit come up
from within to heal their physical bodies , and many other miracles. And, yes,
indeed Jesus never performed a miracle on someone else. He showed them how to
perform it for themselves.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4: Tobias, you have brought us many interesting visitors.
And, I would like to request a visit. I would love to hear from Mohammed.
TOBIAS: That is very interesting, for we have been chatting about this. Cauldre
has asked when Mohammed would come in. His energy has been in the Second Circle
many, many times. But, you know, in a sense, he has – how to say –
been quite busy with other things going on. (much audience laughter) He is scheduled
at some point, but there are energetic reasons why he has not wanted to be directly
here as the primary guest.
There is much confusion about so many of your masters. At times they tend tend
to take a low profile. They do not want energies or attentions focused on them.
They do not want those humans to follow them. And, they understand the balance
needed to avoid controversy. But, we thank you for your question, and be assured
that Mohammed will be here. Be assured that we are speaking with him –
that he will have a most shocking message for you when he comes in. (audience
laughter) Yes, he indeed was known for that in his time also.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5: Tobias, can you tell us how Gaia produces crude oil?
TOBIAS: There are many different ways to answer this question. On the scientific
level, it is simply rearranging the molecular structure of life forms that have
been on your planet, combining many different energetic sources together.
In a sense, you could also say this oil is the “sweat of Gaia.”
It is a by-product of the whole transformation and the energy movements of this
wonderful organism called Gaia.
It has been appropriate for this crude oil to be used by humans. There is no
resentment on Gaia’s part for this. But, dear friends, it is time, as
you know, to move to the next level of energies on your Earth. We will talk
about that in just a moment.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6: Tobias, how might I best be an instrument of compassion
for a loved one with a mental illness, what we call mental illness? And, how
can we heal mental illness without drugs?
TOBIAS: You already have been an instrument of compassion. You know this also.
You have had your days of frustration. But, oh, it has brought you much joy
and new understanding in your life. It is as simple as knowing that humans choose
this in their life. It is not a mistake of nature. It is not a punishment of
God. They choose this for a variety of reasons.
If you would like to be even more understanding, and compassionate, and see
how all of this has been set up, ask this loved one in a channeling state, in
a feeling state, to help you to understand more about the dynamics of why they
chose this in their life. You too will be surprised at some of the things that
you hear from this.
And, if you say, “But, Tobias, I do not know so much how to channel,”
that is wrong, for you have been doing it for a long time, particularly with
this individual. Allow yourself to go into the feelings of what they have to
say. They will tell you a wonderful story, a story includes you also from the
past. You can now release that Old Energy that holds you to them. You can see
them in a whole new way, with a whole new understanding.
Mental illness is not something that can be cured. It is a condition that is
brought over from our side of the veil in agreement when somebody is born. They
choose this – what you would consider a disability, which is not at all
– for a variety of reasons.
And, yes… how can we say this enough? These drugs that you have developed
for the mind are holding back the evolution of consciousness. We know at times
it helps to even things out. It tends to make it more comfortable. But, we are
not in favor of these things. There are homeopathic remedies that your fine
homeopathic doctors can prescribe to help get these ones off these drugs that
limit the mind. So, we suggest that you go to see the homeopathics, several
here in this room today. Talk to them about what can be done. They will find
you after this meeting, and they will talk to you, for they have much compassion
in their hearts.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7: Tobias, I would like to ask about a friend who passed
in the summer 2001, and why he… what the significance was of me bonding
with him in the last two weeks, whereas I didn’t bond with him before
that whole time. And, he seems to come through a lot. I just want to know how
he’s doing and the significance of it.
TOBIAS: You can stay there. (Comment from Tobias as questioner begins to move
away from the microphone.) We would like to talk to you. (audience laughter)
So, you when you talk to him, how does he tell you he’s doing?
SHAUMBRA 7: Good, very good. Incredibly well, actually.
TOBIAS: And, how does he like it here on our side?
SHAUMBRA 7: A lot.
TOBIAS: And, does he desire to come back to Earth?
SHAUMBRA 7: Yes.
TOBIAS: And, what is he waiting for?
SHAUMBRA 7: I guess for us to finish the new school, the Shaumbra University?
(much audience laughter and applause)
TOBIAS: We are laughing, and Cauldre is laughing. Cauldre… he is sometimes
challenged to talk about things such as financing, such as the need for energies
in the support for this school. So, there are insidious ways that we bring this
up. (much continued laughter) And, best of all he knows it.
So, how do you feel, how do you feel about when he left, and why you bonded
with him before he left? What was the significance of that very short period
of time. Be very open with this. Allow yourself. You know how to channel.
SHAUMBRA 7: I think he was curious, or I guess he just chose me because I was
holding the presence at the time. I was connecting a lot. And, he made me laugh
so much. It was just amazing that he’d been through so much, and he was
able to… he had a certain wisdom about him.
TOBIAS: He also knew that his time was coming. And, there were certain fears
and concerns that he had, like so many humans have about dying. On one level
he understood the beauty and the joy of a lifetime experience, and leaving that,
and coming back to our side.
But, he needed to be reminded of that. He needed to be reminded of the blessings
of life. He needed to be reminded that there is even joy in leaving the physical
body and coming back to our side. He needed to understand that there was not
a vengeful or judgmental God on our side who was waiting to see what he’d
done right or wrong. He had forgotten some of that.
He needed to be in the presence of one who had wisdom. So, he came to you.
There was a bonding. It reminded him of everything that he was and all that
he learned. And, he is ever thankful to you. And, that's why he continues to
come to you and joke.
And, yes, indeed, indeed he is coming back. Indeed, he is waiting for a group
of humans who are truly centered and grounded in their own divinity. He wants
to be brought into a family like that. He had spent many lifetimes where he
came into difficult families. But, this wise one knows that there is no sense
in choosing that anymore. If you have a choice, you can choose now to come back
to a family that will love and nurture you in the New Energy. And, that is what
he is waiting for.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8: Tobias, I have a question regarding the space shuttle
Columbia incident this morning. It is my belief that those seven souls volunteered
to exit this plane today. And, I wanted to know how they are doing thus far,
and also maybe speak to the larger picture of why they made that decision today.
TOBIAS: Indeed, we are delighted that you brought this up. It is not that you,
or other humans for the most part, script your exit scenario. There are potentials
that exist. But, for the ones who were on this mission, they knew the danger
and the risks at many, many levels. But, they didn't know, and it was never
scripted that it would end on this day. So, we want you to understand, all of
you, that there is not a specific date or time in the future that you will come
back to us. It is all about potential.
So many of you right now… you have been through near death experiences,
almost in a fatal car accident, almost in a tragic situation. But, you didn’t
experience the death. You changed it. You changed it.
Now, let us talk for moment about the tragedy on this day with the Columbia.
We ask you also to understand there is a lot of symbolism here and much to be
understood. We ask you not to get caught up in the drama of what we will say
but to understand it at the deeper levels. (audience laughter as Tobias hesitates
to proceed) Cauldre does not like what we are going to say, but we will talk
to you in spite of him.
There have been many, many what you call space missions in your time. There
is a great curiosity about what happens outside the realms of your Earth, what
is in space. This is natural. One of the things that the scientists and governments
learned quite a while ago was that things are quite different once you leave
the energetic blanket of Earth, when you get out into space. What they learned
is that there are tremendous energies that can be tapped into.
Kryon speaks of these energies in a type of cosmic lattice. There are great
energies that can be tapped into. It is very difficult to tap into these when
you are on Earth. So, they have been conducting experiments for quite some time.
They are making connections. Sometimes they think it is with alien beings. They
are still not quite sure. But, they are feeling and being able to actually sense
vibrations. They are feeling surges of energies that come in. And, they are
trying to understand what these universal energies are and, more than anything,
how to bring these back to Earth.
In the past when they have tried to collect these energies… think of
them, in a sense, these energies that we speak of here, like vibrations and
tones in very specific patterns. They have been trying to decode these for better
understanding. They think it is a language, although it is not. There was the
assumption that it was a language from other civilizations, what you would call
aliens. But, it is not. What they have discovered is when they can tap into
these frequencies and these vibrations , it delivers a type of potent, but yet
very safe, energy.
Dear friends, there is all of this work to go into space. Do you think they
are going there just to learn how to grow bigger corn? (audience laughter) Or
to see if rats live a few days longer? No. They have discovered, in a sense,
New Energy. (sighs and aahs from the audience) Yes. And, they are using it in
their experiments right now.
(chuckling) They understand that WE know. They even listen in on our talks
here. They are trying to understand what we already know, to help them to understand
better what they should know. So, we would like to greet them today. (audience
laughter) Thank you for listening in! (It was later discovered that there were
70 Internet hits during this channel from the U.S. military).
They are using a type of water-based substance to try to collect this energy
in space. They know it is very potent. While they are on their space missions,
outside of the strong magnetics of Earth, they can utilize this energy. But,
past efforts to try to bring it back to Earth have failed.
Now, as you know, the grids changed. Things became different just a month ago.
They went into space, quite recently, knowing this. Dear friends, they understand
that the grids have changed.
So now they tried to bring this very potent New Energy back to Earth. They
tried to cross through the planes. They tried to bring it back into the atmosphere
of Earth. And, it doesn't work so well. It doesn't work so well. It is something
yet that needs great understanding.
In a sense, you could say that the consciousness of humanity will not allow
it to be brought back here. It is too potent for human use right now. It makes
your nuclear weapons look crude, crude and small. There is enough consciousness
and vibration of the planet to know that if this was brought back now and put
into hands of those who have agenda, it could be very catastrophic. There are
those who were aboard the Columbia, in a sense, that, yes, did give their lives
today to assure that this wasn't brought back at this time.
There will be more explorations, but rest assured, for the time being, that
the governments of the world will understand it is difficult to bring back that
energy from the outer realms to the Earth. They will continue their experiments.
Now, why is it that on your news this morning you see flashing, while the reporters
are talking about this incident, “If you find any debris, do not touch
it. Stay away from it.” It is because they are not sure what it is. There
will come out in your news a wide assortment of speculations about spy projects
and about all sorts of things. This also serves a purpose, for it does open
the truth. Yes, there will be investigations. And, yes, there will be some who
come to realize that they were doing things in space that they didn’t
talk about back here.
Now, dear friends, we don’t want you to get too wrapped up in this. We
are trying to get you to understand what is happening at a deeper level. As
you release the duality, and agenda, and drama from your life, then it is much
easier to share all this because we realize you will not spend too much time
focusing on it.
But, yes, we told you many months ago, many months ago that they were starting
to understand what New Energy was. You were creating New Energy. We told you
back then that it could not be utilized by you right now, but that you were
creating New Energy, and that it was taking form out in your universe. Here
is one example of this.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 9: Hi, Tobias. Could you speak about sabotage and especially
self-sabotage? If I am God and an angel, why do I do it?
TOBIAS: There is a fear… there is a fear of being powerful. There is
also a fear of not having power. This is a conflict that is taking place within
you. And you are not alone. There are so many who are experiencing this also.
You feel that if you open up, perhaps the dragon within you will come out, the
dragon that in the past has destroyed universes, destroyed other humans, destroyed
yourself. So, there is this conflict. There is this self-sabotage.
Shaumbra, you know the doors must come open. You know you must tear down the
walls. But you only open the door a bit. And, then when you feel something,
when you feel a bit uneasy, when you feel old things from the past, you shut
the door right away. So, there’s been a lot of opening and door shutting,
a lot of tired hinges lately! (audience laughter)
It is appropriate that you would ask the question on this day about self-sabotage,
because, dear Shaumbra, you have now come to the understand that power is an
illusion. Release the concept of power. There is no need to sabotage self anymore.
Allow yourself to express in your fullest, grandest way in the moment that
you are in. Allow yourself to feel a bit uncomfortable at first with this. Allow
those old feelings from the past to come back to visit. You know the reason
why old feelings, people or experiences from the past are coming to visit you
now also? It is that they want to see what you have. They want to feel your
enlightenment. They want to feel your divinity.
So, we say to you, release all of this. Understand that the power was an illusion,
that you simply are. The sabotaging and self-sabotaging will disappear. We know
you have been in great conflict with this. And, it is tiring you out more than
anything… very, very tired. It is time to let that go.
Dear Shaumbra, another day together… another day in the moment…
another day of new understandings… new sharings… new ventures…
You are never alone.
And so it is!
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe, aka “Cauldre,”
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compassion and care. You will know what to do and teach in that moment, when
the unique and precious human who is about to embark on the journey of the Bridge
of Swords comes to you.
If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are
indeed Shaumbra. You are a teacher and a human guide. Allow the seed of divinity
to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never
alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around
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