The Divine Human Series: "SHOUD 3 "
Questions and Answers

Presented at the Crimson Circle
October 13, 2002

TOBIAS: And so it is, dear friends, that we continue to hold and to share this energy together. We look at you. Even those who are reading this material, we can see you. We look out, and we see such love in your hearts. We see such desire to fulfill the promise. We see such compassion for others, and for your Earth, and for the journey of all.

You indeed are pioneers, ones who chose to go through what was unknown only a few years ago. But now you, and we, and All That Is are coming to understand what this New Energy is truly about. We are all coming to understand the potential of integrating the divinity, integrating the “God That You Are Also” into your lives as humans on Earth.

This moment is such a gift. The moment that we sit in right now is a gift to us. We give back the gift of love and understanding to you. Being in the moment like this opens up new opportunities, opens up potentials that heretofore could not be realized.

Being in the moment that we are in, as you said in the Shoud, allows your entire being to come back into balance. It allows the knowingnesses and the understandings that lie just beneath the surface to come forth. Being in the moment allows words to be said that don't need words around them. It allows energies to flow through that don't need explanation. As humans you still long to put meaning and definition to everything. But you are learning in the moment that energies are far stronger than words.

Before we proceed with our questions and answers, Archangel Gabriel would like to come forth to speak to you. So, we will ask Cauldre (Geoffrey Hoppe) to shift gears, be open, be in the moment. He gets a bit nervous sometimes! But he says that he and all of you here are open to having Gabriel speak for a moment. So…

(Pause, while Cauldre prepares to channel Gabriel)

ARCHANGEL GABRIEL: I am Gabriel of the Order of the Arc. Each one of you here I know well. Each one of you I have worked with long before you ever came to this place of Earth, this great place of Earth.

I'm an aspect of you, but I hold my own identity as well. I am the aspect of you that breathes life into nothingness. I am the aspect of you that gives life to what was not before. I am the aspect of you that births the New.

That is why I have worked with all of you so closely. That is why I sounded the trumpet for so long, reminding you day after day, and night after night, sounding the trumpet to your awakening, reminding you of who you are, reminding you of the times that we spent together. When the trumpet sounded, it was time for you to remember, time for you to go to your next level.

That is why you are here. And that is why it is possible for me to leave the energies of the Order of the Arc to sit at your feet on this day. That is why it is possible for me to share my energy with each of you.

Together we give birth to divinity, to fulfillment, to the Second Creation. We are birthing that Second Creation in this moment that we share.

Each of you has agreed at your divine level to be the teacher. As a teacher you will show others how to live, how to live whether they are in the Old Energy, which may be appropriate for them, or how to live in the New, or, as you spoke today in Shoud, how to live in both worlds at one time.

You are the teachers of life. You express what you have learned. You communicate to others. You encourage them to express, to communicate, to live. Together all of us are making the New Creation. But this is the group. You are the legions of angels who I have worked closest with, preparing for this time that we are in now.

I am here. I am able to now bring my energy closer to yours. I am here to give you the strength and compassion, and to also encourage you to bring it forth into life, into living.

I am Gabriel of the Order of the Arc. And so it is.

(Tobias returns)

TOBIAS: Indeed, it is an honor to have this dear, dear friend join us for this portion of your journey. It is such an honor for I, Tobias, to work with you and to work with all of the others who have come in and the ones who will continue to come in. Understand that there is so much honor and so much joy for your journey. Understand that indeed you are living in both worlds at one time – quite a challenge!

And understand that there is much to learn about living in the moment. It will be difficult for you at first. You will be pulled to want to hop back in that vehicle, the metaphor for your journey, and travel back down the road, thinking all the time, “How do I stay in the moment? How do I stay in the moment?” You will have to pull off.

Now, I do want to share with you that this does not mean that you will not be busy. By all means, there will be more activity than ever! There will be more to do, more to juggle, more to stay balanced with. There will be more people coming into your lives and more opportunities.

It will be up to your discernment what to let pass through and what to stay with. Even though this is a rest stop, there will be much activity. Many who are on their journey will stop. You will be there as a human angel, as a teacher of the New Energy.

With that we ask you to step forward and to share with us, to talk with us.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1: Tobias, I am really curious about the Kryon creating the grid. Can you tell us a little more about that, how that will affect us, and if there is a way that we can connect or reconnect to the grid?

TOBIAS: Indeed, it was not Kryon who created the grid, but it was Kryon who has had the responsibility for adjusting it in response to the changing vibration of humans. Now, Kryon came in some years ago to make the final adjustment. This will allow you to truly own and to hold your divinity.

The magnetic grid is like an intersecting highway of energy that wraps around the entire Earth. There are specific points on the grid. There are physical, magnetic, and electrical properties to this grid.

The Kryon came with an entourage from all parts of this creation to adjust it. This allows a release of energy that you can bring into your life.

Now, you say, “How do you connect with it?” You have always been connected with it, but you have not always been able to utilize the full potential of the energies. You stay connected to it, but now you can handle all the energies that are available.

This was not so much possible in the past. If you had tried to bring in these energies, it would have burned out your circuits, burned out your physical, your mental, and your emotional body. But now you are able to handle these energies.

So it is that the Kryon makes the final adjustment. Then it is up to you what to do with it. It is up to every human on Earth what to do with this new potential. Nothing is held back now. It is all yours.

How do you realize it? Indeed, you are always connected, but how do you realize this potential of energies that is in the grids? Be in the moment. As you said in Shoud today, it is to breathe. It is to feel. It is to be in the moment. It is to realize that you attract everything to you.

Now, we don't want to see you, Shaumbra, going out and trying to write books and do classes about how to reconnect with this energy and make it work. It comes to you. It is that simple. It comes to you.

Then, you put it into effect in your life, depending on the situation at hand. Then, you breathe life into it. You give it life through your being. Through all of your physical and divine senses, you allow this energy to come forth. This is where what we call the magic begins. This is where you can do things you never thought possible, understand things you could have never understood before.

As you stay in the moment, you will realize more and more of the potential of divine energies that are available. In a way it is a combination of the energies of the grid, the energies of the Earth grids, as well, and your divinity blossoming within you that all intersect together to create a tremendous new potential.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2: I don’t know if this is an appropriate question, but I’m sure you’ll let me know if it isn’t. (audience laughter) We have a friend who has been through a lot of experiences with us in this lifetime, and I think in other lifetimes. And right now, he’s on a bit of a divergent path. I sometimes think I’ll just let it go, let him go. But then he always comes back in our lives at some point. It kind of rattles us. I’m just not sure if he is one of these things that we should just let keep going.

TOBIAS: And it is an appropriate question…

SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you…

TOBIAS: …for YOU to answer! (audience laughter)

SHAUMBRA 2: Oh! (laughter from this questioner) Well…

TOBIAS: So, what would you do with this one who keeps crossing paths with your life, who goes off in other directions, but keeps coming back?

SHAUMBRA 2: Gosh, that’s very difficult. When he’s not around, it’s easy to let go. But then every time we kind of forget about him, he’s back. And there’s a lot of energy there when he’s around.

TOBIAS: Let us attempt to add our insight to this.

SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you!

TOBIAS: This dear one, who indeed has been with you in many past lives with, relies on you. He relies on you heavily. As you let him go, truly let him go, then, he can come back to you in a bit different way. There is some – how would you say it in your psychological terms – there is a codependency thing taking place here. Let him go, and he can come back to you new. He can come back to you now as the student and the child, rather than the one who tends to disrupt all of the energies.

But underneath it all, this dear one understands and sees the balance that you have within you. He relies on you. While he goes off and plays in other venues and tries new experiences, he always comes back, because you are, in a sense, like an energetic home for him. So, he will come back.

But when he comes back now, start asking him the questions. Start asking this friend what he thinks and feels and is going through. And then listen. Then listen. You will understand. And as he begins hearing the sound of his own voice, he will come to new understandings within himself. But indeed, it is time to truly release this one from the Old Energy ways that you dealt with him.

SHAUMBRA 2: What do you mean by release?

TOBIAS: In your heart, in your heart, speak to him. Let him know that it is time for him to rely on his own energy. In your heart, say that you no longer need these bonds of the Old Energy that created this codependence. In your heart, tell him that he is free, and that you are free. That is how you release.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3, a young man in early teen years: Hi, Tobias. Duality is still a big part of many of my friends’ lives. Do you have any tips or suggestions for me so I can help them out of that without letting them really know or freaking them out? (audience laughter, some applause, and Tobias chuckling)

TOBIAS: Indeed, duality is a wonderful sandbox to play in. There are many, many humans that still enjoy playing in it. There is nothing that you need to say to them. When they are tired of playing in that sandbox, they will come to you. They will come to you.

You will even find for yourselves, for all of you Shaumbra, that you will want to get in and play in duality once in a while. But you will find that as you move into the New Energy that you won't be trapped in it, that you can go play when you want, but you will not get stuck in it.

What to tell your own friends, the ones who are still there? Love them for what they're doing. Love them for what they are creating. And they will come to you with the questions at the appropriate time.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4: Tobias, this is directed at Gabriel. Was it you that came and sat on my bed? And was it you that put the Book of Flames in my hand? And if it was, what is it that you want me to know that I’m not getting?

TOBIAS: Gabriel says that it was he, but it was others as well. It was Yeshua. It was Metatron, indeed. And it was others who have known you from the other side, whose names you would not recognize at this moment. But there was a group that came. They were trying to give you hope and tell you not to dismay, telling you that the time and the energy was not quite right.

While you were so enthusiastic and wanting to go into this fulfillment, that it was slow at the time because the consciousness of others around you. The mass consciousness was not quite ready for you yet. They were telling you to be patient. They were giving you the energy of hope, letting you know that the time would come, that the time would come. And they are all nodding their heads now, and saying it is that time. It is time to come back to life.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5: Dear Tobias, something has been occurring since I went to the first school (Crimson Circle School I: Outside the Circle) back in November of last year. I don’t know quite how to put words on it, but I get these sensations that are something energetically like when I look at the mountain, or I look at a tree, I get the sense of a friend. I don’t actually see their image, but I get a sense of their vibrational impression. And I talked about it in our local Shaumbra discussion group. I don’t know what that is about. The more I stay in the Now and breathe it gets even more profound. And it’s like I’ll want to call somebody… I get the impression… that sensation… whatever it is… I don’t know what it is… and then I don’t need to call them. Can you speak to this?

TOBIAS: Indeed, as you and as all of Shaumbra open up, you become more sensitive. You begin speaking. You begin communicating in the Languages of Ah. And words are not needed at that point. They are conveyed at different levels.

You are opening up your sensitivity, so you see, and feel, and sense, and hear, and taste all of these things more than ever before. You are more perceptive of people, and their feelings, and their path. You are more perceptive of Gaia. You are more perceptive of everything around you. And these energy surges, these energy alarms within you are alerting you to a situation, a need for them to receive your energy, your love, and your blessings.

But as you are experiencing so many times, words do not need to be said. You are truly working in the Language of Ah. You are truly working with this. And it perhaps feels a bit uncomfortable at first. You are not sure what these energy alarms are all about. But it is just notifying you that an action is taking place at the multidimensional levels. That is what it is.

SHAUMBRA 5: Does it have anything to do with “terra?”

TOBIAS: Not necessarily. It has more to do with simply your divinity opening up within you.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6: Tobias, the question is – did the panic attack that I had like two weeks ago have to do with this opening up you’re talking about? And how can I best stay present, stay conscious, and not go into the non-reality of it?

TOBIAS: These panic attacks that you and so many others are dealing with right now… you move into the New Energy, and all of a sudden it is like the Old Energy is pulling you back. It is trying to bring you back, and this causes the anxiety. This causes you to wonder about what you are doing, wonder about how crazy this is to be living in the Now instead of driving down the old linear highway of the Old Energy.

We know so many of you have these anxieties. It wakes you up in the middle of the night or stops you cold during the day. This is part of the “stop/start” rhythm of living in two worlds at one time. The best way to ease these and the best way to live in the moment is to simply breathe.

You cannot create the moment in your mind. You can simply create it by being there. This means being fully present in everything you are doing. Be fully present in every moment… whether you are at work… whether you are here with Shaumbra… whether you are off in nature by yourself… be fully present and fully alive. Gabriel comes in at this time to speak to all of you about breathing life, breathing life into everything you do. This will help relieve the discomfort and the craziness of these anxiety attacks.

SHAUMBRA 6: And one more question. The children that I teach, and the attention deficit disorders, and the high distractability, do they have a function within all these changes happening? And how can we redirect them?

TOBIAS: Indeed, in a sense, many of them are taking on the energetic imbalance for so many other humans. They are absorbing this within themselves, helping to transmute it, helping to bring it back into balance in service to so many others. Recognize this, and you will start to see things within them that you never did before.

Others of them are pushing so hard within themselves to change from their Old, Old, Old Energy and old karma into the New. It is causing what appears on the outside to be craziness or imbalance.

Understand, once again, they are just working very, very hard to try to accomplish a lot in a short period. Help them to understand the simple things… the simple things, such as living in the moment, such as breathing. You will know the words to say. For all of you Shaumbra, you do not need to recite words from Tobias, or Gabriel, or any of the others. You will know in your own words what to say to them, to their parents, and to the others.

But we ask you specifically to continue this work, to continue this path that you are on. You have questioned at times whether this is where you should be. But there is so much that you can share and teach with the others, so much you will learn yourself, so much then you can share with Shaumbra as you continue this work.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7: Tobias, I don’t know if it was you or Gabriel, but one of you earlier said that when we end our life here and leave our bodies that we would have a choice to either return and be a teacher or go to the New Heaven that is being created. Will all people on Earth have that choice?

TOBIAS: This is an excellent question, and we will talk about it in much more detail. In answer to your question, it was I, Tobias, who discussed this. It does not apply to all humans at this time. It is meant for Shaumbra, for those who connect in one way or the other to these words.

This allows a good opportunity for me to point out that so much of what we discuss here, so much is about Shaumbra. It is not about other humans, for their journey is different than yours now.

But in this case in particular, with making this selection to come back to this physical Earth, or to go to what you would call the new heaven, the New Earth, this is meant as a message for Shaumbra.

SHAUMBRA 7: Can you give us any insight about what the other people will be faced with?

TOBIAS: They are still being pulled very heavily by their own cycles of karma and by the energy of Earth to come back to this Old Earth. We spoke somewhat about that in our last gathering a month ago. There are those who leave the physical body, and in a sense, really don't come back to this side of the veil or spend any time. They are pulled like a strong magnet back to Earth, back to a new body right away. The ones who still walk in the Old Energy will find that they come back to Earth. They seek to have body. They seek fulfillment of their own path.

At some point or the other, they will come to you. They will come to Shaumbra. They will come to ones who are now walking in the New Energy. They will want to know how to release this old karmic cycle of having to come back to Earth time and time again.

This is when you can tell them they can get off the karmic merry-go-round anytime they want. They will not believe you at first. They will think that there has to be all of this retribution, all of this paying for the old sins. But it is as simple as saying that you want to get off the karmic merry-go-round.

Now, as we said, we will speak much more about the New Earth in one of our sessions to come. But it is an interesting choice. We have watched the few now who are coming across, who have had the opportunity to look at both. It is interesting to watch what they choose. And we will save that for a later discussion. (audience laughter)

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8: Tobias, I was wondering. Could I, after I’m done here, could I hang out over there for a while, and then maybe come back here, and then maybe go to the New Earth? (audience laughter)

TOBIAS: We would like to ask you, based on the moment you stand in right now, “What would you choose?”

SHAUMBRA 8: Well, after I’m done here, I would like to hang out with you guys for a while, and then come back here, and then go to the New Earth. (audience laughter)

TOBIAS: We are all laughing on our side as well. (more audience laughter) And even Gabriel said, “Typical human!” (more laughter) And what if we told you that there is the potential to do all of these things simultaneously?


With that, dear friends, we do not want talk anymore about this, for we are now gathering information. We have enough to share with you about the New Earth. But we will save it for another time, a most appropriate time. But we will talk much more about it, and we know there will be many, many questions.

But we do tell you one thing. You all visit the New Earth at night in your sleep, in your dreams. You are helping to build this place. You are going there, working with Gabriel, the giver of life. And you are working with Metatron. And you are working with Amael, and Uriel, and Raphael, and all of the others from the Order of the Arc to set up this new place. So, you already have a feel for it. We will just help bring that to the surface when we come back to discuss it.

It has been a delight, as always, to be with you and to share the moment. This moment can be always… this energy that is here… this love… and this sharing can be always.

We love you dearly. And you are never alone.

And so it is!