THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
Series: "SHOUD 8" - Featuring
Saint-Germain and Tobias
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson Circle
March 5, 2005
I, Adamus, return for a few brief messages before we begin the questions and
answers. Both Tobias and I will be answering the questions today.
I have several points to make regarding today's discussion. First, it is to
remember that under hypnosis the aspect-self will do anything it can –
anything it can – to justify itself. Under hypnosis the aspect-self, which
is the story that you expound right now, will do anything it can to justify
its existence. It will lie to you. It will steal for you. It will do anything
to justify its existence. Remember that.
You are an aspect-self right now. You are not fully expressed. You are not
fully awake, no matter what you think. And, it you think you are, and if your
mind is telling you are, you are really hypnotized right now (audience laughter).
The aspect-self will do anything it can to perpetuate this story because it
loves you, because you have asked it to serve you. The trick is – how
do you get out? That is the reason that we are here now.
For these next days of time until our next gathering, I want you to take a
look at the belief systems that you have bought into about yourself. A belief
system in anything from your physical being… are you believing something
within you is diseased? Do you believe you are going to die? Well, indeed you
do, don't you? But, you don't have to, not in the way that you think. You will
end your story. You will evolve. But, you don’t have to die in the way
that you have been doing lifetime after lifetime.
I want you to take a look at the belief systems that are shaping you right
now. What do you believe when you look in the mirror? I don't see anything when
I look in the mirror (some laughter). I will tell you why in a moment. What
belief systems do you have about your weight, for instance? And, how hypnotized
are you? How hypnotized are you about your weight issues, your intelligence
issues, and your financial issues? It is all a spell that has been cast upon
you by yourself… and maintained… and certainly intensified by these
other elements of church… and government… and family… and
all of these things… business… all of these things that always are
reinforcing your hypnotic state of being.
Under hypnosis the aspect-self will do anything to justify its existence, including
run for fear next month when we show you how to walk out. Remember that. You
are going to have some very interesting experiences this next month of time.
But, it is time to release this hypnosis, these limited belief systems. That's
all hypnosis is.
Some of you have practiced it. You get your client to focus their energy. You
get them to supposedly relax, but there is nothing relaxed about the state that
they are in. And, then you interject belief systems at various energetic levels.
You get them to buy into it. What you are doing is helping them shape energy.
Remember we talked last month – energy is potential expressed. You are
helping them to take energy out of the air, the thin air, and to shape it into
something, into a belief system about themselves.
You are assaulted with hypnotic messages – or belief system messages
– every day, hundreds, thousands of times a day. Some of them serve you
quite well. You want to have a belief system that, for instance, you have to
drive in a certain pattern. You want to be hypnotized when you are on the highway.
You want to follow a certain belief system that others are also following.
But, other times it doesn't serve you. Other times it tells you that you are
inadequate. It tells you that you are crazy. That is one of the surefire ways
that we have on our side of knowing how deeply hypnotized you are. “Perhaps,
I'm crazy,” you say. “Perhaps, the neighbors won’t like what
I am doing. Perhaps, I have to dress and act a certain way to make sure people
accept me.” That is deep hypnosis, very deep. So, you don’t have
to accept it anymore… unless you choose to.
I want to answer a few questions about my own background and reputation. I
have been associated with the energy that you would call Count Dracula (some
laughter). And, I am not; I am not, particularly, although my energies are –
how to say – have been taken and tied into this. I created quite a stir
in my lifetime as Saint-Germain. I was able to go without food because I can
pull energy from the air, literally.
At times I ate ground grains, which I enjoyed. And, there were other times
I would sit at a meal and simply absorb the energy. I was not much for eating
meat because your… we won't go into that right now. That is a whole other
discussion. But, I found that I did not need to eat the solid foods, unless
I simply chose to.
In my lifetime I did not die, as I have told you. In my lifetime I could walk
in and out of bodies. I can still do that.
As I said, I never see myself in a mirror because it is an illusion. It is
hypnosis when you are seeing yourself in a mirror. It is not reality. So, I
see not of myself as a reflection at any time.
I caused quite a stir in my lifetime, and this continued into the 1800s. There
was a revival of interest in my personage in the late 1800s. And, it bothered
the church to such a degree that they wanted to create a story, to create a
story that tied in my energy. But, also it did bring in the energy of a human,
a being that did live quite a while before I did, a human by the name of Count
Dracule (pronouncing this as drak-ool), who was a true being, and who was heinous,
loved to impale his subjects.
It is interesting to note that Count Dracule was angry with the church. He
was brought up in a religious family. He was bought up devout. He was brought
up to honor and obey his parents and God. But, it was the church that murdered
his father and ultimately murdered his mother. And, this brought up a hate in
him that was so strong and so intense and so against God – or at least
the churches – that this incredibly strong energy turned, and it was used
to express his anger and hatred. He killed thousands and thousands in some of
the most gruesome ways.
His lure still lives on. And, it was taken by some who have – how to
say – control of the church hypnosis energy and woven into mine to make
it so that any person who didn't have to eat, any person who did not appear
in the mirror, any person who did not die was considered evil. This is part
of the effect that this hypnotic energy of the church has.
It is appropriate not to die in the way humans have been dying. The suffering
that they go through causes them to have to come back to Earth. It pulls them
in, whether they want to or not. It sucks them back in because they died with
suffering. The church states in these books that they help to write that there
are beings who live off the blood of others; they don’t have to eat food.
I have to wonder who is truly living off the blood and living off the energy.
I did many of my teachings, many of my studies in the area of Transylvania.
I still keep my main energetic residence in that area. I love that area truly.
And, it is one of the most difficult and oppressed areas in some respects, but
it has the most potential for going off into the multi-dimensional realms.
You could say that there is a type of incredible portal there that has been
distorted, that has been abused. But, it is ready to open back up. I spent time
there helping to teach Cauldre these things about channelings, these things
about multi-dimensional realities. I am going to invite some of you to join
me there in the not-so-distant future. Yes, we will go back to Transylvania.
And, what a journey it will be!
And, you will come to understand how you can transcend death. And, there is
nothing unholy about it. So, it is simply a distortion by the energies of the
churches, and one of the reasons why I like to discuss it (some laughter).
With that, let us begin our questions. We will integrate the energies of Tobias
QUESTION FROM SHAUMRA 1 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, what happens
if we found out that we may be in violation of a few rules regarding pooling
of funds? What happens if such funds violate 3-D rules? A thoughtful steward
of 3-D defers to Spirit. Where the freak does that leave us? I have so many
great ways to pool, but they are met with resistance from the 3-D establishment.
Not wanting to diminish a great Tobias channel in San Diego, what can be recommended?
TOBIAS: This a wonderful example here of going outside of the system, of transcending
the rules and the belief systems. You have to be knowledgeable about what the
rules are in order to, as you would say, break them. But, as long as the heart
is in the right place for what you are attempting to do, which is basically
allowing energy to expand by itself, then it will. And, perhaps it may cause
the watchful eye of some of the regulators and some who have the rules. But,
you are also learning right now how to transcend these and how to break this
hypnotic barrier that Saint-Germain talked about, how to let energy move itself.
That is all you are doing. So, we are having a little bit of discussion with
Cauldre. But, it is about breaking the rules at this point. And, you have to
be willing to do that to get out of the system. Thank you. We have to say that
you will find… you will know the answers… and stop worrying about
the rules. That is the true answer.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Blessings to you. I was
wondering if you could tell me what is going with my 13-year-old son. He is
making wrong decisions. And, how can I support him?
TOBIAS: It is so important for you to take a look at what you consider a wrong
decision. And, we go back to one of the very basic understandings that there
is no right or wrong. You are carrying a judgment about this. And, you are not
honoring the soul-being who chose you as its parent. You are not honoring this
being in making their choices. Now, we know sometimes it is difficult for you
to watch. You cannot possibly imagine how or why they are making these choices.
But, your own judgment of them is actually causing this one to rebel even more
and to go against the system even more. It is so important for you to have total
compassion – which means total acceptance, fearless acceptance –
and let this being be. When you change the energetic relationship that you have
with this dear one, it will also change the way they come to you now for advice
and guidance. But, you need to have total compassion. And, we know that is difficult
for a parent to do when they think that their child is making the wrong decisions.
But, perhaps they’re not.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Saint-Germain,
I’m wondering why you don’t take the stage before us as a newly
manifested being, or perhaps as a previously manifested being, such as Mark
Twain, or Shakespeare? Why do you choose to be merely channeled through Cauldre?
Saint-Germain: We are going to answer this question in a multiple of ways.
We have to say first that you would become overly fascinated if I suddenly manifested
as the essence of light in front of you. We know exactly what would happen because
it has happened to others. That is why in the lifetime of Saint-Germain this
entity kept a relatively low profile. He was not out to do magic tricks at parties
or to try to make a name for himself. He needed to keep a lower profile in order
to even start these secret societies and help the energies at the time. So,
if there was a manifestation directly in front of you, it would so totally throw
you off your path. And, we are trying to get you to do it for yourself. The
second answer to that is we have manifested in front of you, and you don't choose
to believe it (audience laughter). Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): I don’t know. What
do you think? Would we freak out and lose it and not be able to handle it if
we saw you as light or anything else? I think we are all so yearning for a glimpse.
This wasn’t my original question, but (more laughter) this is better.
I think it will reinforce us. We are so strong. We have been going through all
this stuff. Please, we won’t tell anybody (much more laughter and applause).
Saint-Germain: We will share with you a few things. Part of it is that this
hypnotic overlay right now has prevented you from seeing me when I truly do
appear. Much as – how to say – my reflection does not appear in
a mirror, it is also difficult for an asleep human to see who I truly am. So,
I do have to manifest in strange and unusual ways. As I mentioned before, I
manifested for Norma and Garret and Linda and Cauldre as a taxi driver in Paris.
But, even their hypnotic overlay kept them from seeing who I was.
I manifested at our gathering a month ago through Linda. And, you were looking
directly at her. And, I came into her being, and yet you did not see me for
who I was. And, when I mentioned that I was in the room and said, “Do
not turn around”… and she agreed at other levels… she was
quite ill and out of balance before the gathering. It was the only time that
she – how to say – had to be taken to the back to be worked on through
breathing. But, in a strange – we are sorry, dear – but in a strange
way the breathing that you felt necessary before the last meeting actually only
helped to bring me in deeper into your being (audience laughter).
So, I will provide a true answer to your question. Once you are released from
the hypnotic state, you will see me very clear. I will not have to come in through
a channeler. I will not have to make my presence through the body of Linda or
any others. I won't have to create illusions within illusion. You will be able
to see me even as I am standing one inch from your face right now and you cannot
see me. You can only hear me through Cauldre. You release the hypnotic effect
that surrounds you, and you will feel my breath on your face.
SHAUMBRA 5 (a woman at the microphone): Very briefly, my question continues
from there. Can we… I have the feeling that I would like to release my…
walk away from my story, walk away from the hypnotic state and remain in my
physical body and then, at some point say, “Let me walk out of my physical
body now.” Is this something that we can look forward to, or are you implying
that when I do see you, I won’t be in my physical body?
Saint-Germain: Absolutely, you will want to be in your physical body. There
is a great gift in being here on Earth. And, there is a great gift of being
in the physical state of being. So, this is something that Tobias and I are
going to encourage everyone to do – to have the choice and the option
to walk in and out of your physical being. A few of you will walk out of your
physical being and look back at it and (audience laughter) decide to start over.
But, the important thing there is that you won't have to go through the traditional
birth process in order to do it. You won't have to be born out of the womb.
The… the… whole other discussion… but the fabric of biology
will be there waiting for you to inhabit it. But, in answer to your question,
no, you won't have to give up the physical body, unless you choose to. That
is the whole purpose of this movement into the New Energy – it is to stay
embodied, stay embodied, but yet be free. Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 5: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, my mom,
Mary, is seemingly very ill in the moment. I would describe her as a completely
dedicated, truthful, loving person, and so her illness makes no sense. I am
grasping at straws, and we are hoping and trusting that the greater picture
knows what it is doing. It is very frustrating being in the dark. And, if she’s
doing planetary service then I’m asking for a speedy recovery, at least
some sort of peace for her. She has sacrificed a great deal in the name of truth.
And, I am asking for a bit of it back for her. She is too confused and ill to
ask for herself, and so I am doing it on her behalf. It’s all very well
trusting the greater picture, but sometimes we are mere human beings and the
ride can get pretty rough.
TOBIAS: Indeed, it can, as long as you buy into this whole belief of death.
I am going to ask you first to be very bold and fearless and to accept the process
that she is going through, to accept that she has chosen this at some level.
That takes ultimate compassion on your part. I am going to ask you to also release
connection. You are so tied into this being that you are literally making it
difficult for them to move into their next level. You have many judgments about
what is right and wrong, many judgments about how things should be. With those,
it is going to be so difficult for you to move into a true New Energy. You are
still holding onto the Old.
It’s going to require the total release and total acceptance, even the
disconnection of love. As strange as that sounds, love has no connection. It
allows freedom to every being, every thing, every bit of energy, and every potential.
Can you take a look at this as a sacred and blessed process that this dear one
is going through? Can you stop looking at death as a final type of thing? Can
you understand that there is evolution of the soul, transition out of biology,
particularly for those who are still in the Old Energy? We are going to ask
you to take a strong, close look at your own belief systems because this question
isn't truly about your mother. It is about you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7 (a woman at the microphone): Hello, I notice that
we have a lot of music at the Crimson Circle. And, it seems to be a very important
thing. And, I think that a lot of people in the audience would probably agree
that music to them is very important. And, I remember that Saint-Germain mentioned
something about energy and music. And, I wondered if you could go into a little
bit more detail about energy and music.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: We will to an extent. But, we’re going to have
a separate discussion session simply on music. Music operates at many different
levels, even beyond the number of levels as the human voice. Oh, we’re
going to get into a bit of celestial science here. Typically, a human voice
operates at approximately 20 different – we’re trying to push information
through Cauldre – but 20 different levels. You not only hear it in the
ears, but there are other energy levels that it operates at. It is really quite
Music expands that exponentially. And, depending on the type of instruments
and how the music was created, performed, and recorded, it can operate literally
at thousands or tens of thousands of various energetic levels. So, you not only
hear the words, but you begin feeling at different levels.
When the music is applied in various sequences and with different types of
patterns, it can be most effective in helping misaligned energies within the
body, mind and spirit come back into alignment. The music can be used to create
a sacred energy. And, as you know, music can also be used to shatter energy
and make it even more erratic and outside of itself.
So, for those of you who create music, or perform music right now, or simply
enjoy it, you are receiving multi-dimensional energy. That is a good way to
put it, for the musician, the Creator, can begin to pull in energies from other
dimensions and angelic realms, even from our realms, into the music that is
played back. Again, how it is… the instruments that are used, and the
recording methods, and even the playback methods, have an impact on this. There
are times, for instance, where we don't want our messages recorded for particular
reasons, and we don't want them played back over certain systems because they
can literally distort the layers and the rhythm of the music, even the energies
that are coming through us.
So, you touch on a fascinating subject. And, there are those who are listening
right now and those who are in attendance here who are being motivated and encouraged
to work with new music. Get out of your mind about how music was done before,
and begin working with the new music. We will have one of these music sessions
quite soon. Thank you.
LINDA: Is any of this related to why we’ve had such a problem with broadcasting?
TOBIAS: There are a variety of reasons. And, we don't want you to go overboard
about this. But, there are energies that are directly applied to making sure
that the transmission doesn't go through, that are used to distort and diffract
the energies that are going out over the Internet. And, there is a conscious
effort to have this not happen. And, you can look for all of the mechanical
or the physical causes for the disruption in the service. But, it is coming
energetically from other levels. The best thing to do is to ignore this and
to keep doing what you're doing because, obviously, even if they cannot listen
live, you can offer this in many other ways. So, do not let this get the best
LINDA: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8 (from the Internet, read by Linda): I feel the wound
of Isis is a wound for men as well. I talked about this with my male partner,
and we both felt our wound and had to cry, feeling the anger of women and the
shame of men. Can you say something about this?
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: Indeed… we spoke about this recently in one of
our gatherings. And, we have to say first of all that this whole understanding
of masculine and feminine energies is distorted. The feminine energy is given
a label of being a softer or weaker energy, a more vulnerable energy. And, this
is not at all true. This is a hypnotic belief that has gone out to try to pervert
the feminine energy. The feminine is actually the stronger of the energies.
The masculine becomes the protector. They work together, and they are a part
of any person. Just because you have the body of a woman does not mean you are
just feminine energy. You are both. Every man also carries a feminine energy
within his being. Most of them suppress it. And, that is why you do not see
more men at these gatherings because they are trying to suppress something that
they know within them is stronger than what they thought was their strength.
QUESTION FROM SHAUBMRA 9 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, Tobias and Saint-Germain. As one who loved being quiet and silent and work behind the scenes,
I’m now choosing to be bold and fearless and radiant. And, as I’m
birthing an international film production company, I welcome your assistance
and your blessing and any information you have to share.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: We have to say that our blessings and our assistance
are in whatever you choose to do… whatever. So, this concept that you
are working on… we are going to offer a few suggestions. Don't limit yourself
in it, for there is more potential than even what you realize now. Understand
also that connections are already being made and developed at the moment you
are speaking. Understand that there is going to be a whole new way of communicating
– how to say – alternative reality type of things. We say alternate
reality because this is like your movies. It is a reality. It is just different
than the reality you know.
And, these alternative reality productions – or what we would like to
say “new reality” productions that you will become involved in –
will also be much more than just a movie, much more than the visual on the screen
or the music or the sound effects. So, we want you to imagine beyond where you
have been. This is a venue that is still being highly developed that has to
do with, again, carrying vibration or messages or communications or energies
within all of the aspects of this manufactured reality. So, it is a wonderful
thing you're doing. And, you’ve been preparing for it for many lifetimes
and many sleepless nights.
SHAUMBRA 9: And many wonderful dream states. Thank you for showing up. Bye
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 10 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Dear beloved
Saint-Germain, please explain what’s going on with my staying visa and
what is the solution? Thanks, your brother Moshe from Romania.
Saint-Germain: Indeed… you’re being challenged about who you are,
and it manifests itself directly in – how to say – your identity.
You talk about this visa that you have. And, it is making you have to look at
who you are, Moshe. You are not who you think you are. You heard in the discussion
in the Shoud today this whole concept of hypnosis. Now, you've done an incredible,
beautiful job of helping to hold an energy in a place that is very sacred in
the energy of Romania and Transylvania and this whole region. But, you have
also bought into your own self. And, your own self is wanting to shake loose
of that now. So, you’re being challenged. And, we’re going to help
challenge you to stop, to not limit yourself with the story that you have. Do
not fall prey to your own hypnosis that you know so well how to do, for this
area keeps calling you back over and over again. So, we are going to spend a
little extra time with you offline here, but this is, in a sense, what is happening.
And, it is bringing up all of the issues and energies within you. And, this
is a good thing.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 11 (a woman at the microphone): Adamus, thank you for
being here today and last month. I have felt your presence several times and
heard you speaking to me. In the last six weeks I have been questioning the
forgetting who we are, forgetting our “I-amness.” And, today it
seems you have broached the subject about being hypnotized. When you say, “Release
and accept,” you’re saying release and accept your essence or your
Saint-Germain: It’s about releasing your limitations and accepting your
“I-amness.” Your limitations are, in a sense, all of the stories
that you have created, your past life aspects. They are just stories, but there
is a tendency to believe that they hold the power, that they hold the energies.
They are just stories. It is about releasing them.
They want to be released. They want to be set free. They are in this –
how to say – this type of crystal or structure that we talked about before,
frozen in time and space, waiting for you to let them have their own freedom.
When you do this, it lets go of your limitations and your acceptance of this
hypnotic state that you have been in.
When you accept everything… everything… including what you consider
crazy thoughts in your mind… when you consider what another… when
you accept what another person does… when you accept your children…
when you accept the world as it is… when you accept everything that happens…
this also sets you free in a whole new way. It allows you to go beyond the limitations
of the hypnosis.
Hypnosis requires limitations. Acceptance lets you fly past those. So, accepting,
which is the compassion that we speak about so often, is so essential for your
total freedom. It is very simple, and don’t get so much into the head
SHAUMBRA 11: Okay, thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 12 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Did I plan to
spend this lifetime alone? Is there a man on Earth I could be happy with (audience
laughter)? Relationships have been non-existent, unrequited, or hopeless. I
have worked at enjoying being by myself. Also, in the decade before retirement
I still haven’t started a career. Who the hell am I? (more laughter)
Saint-Germain: We could talk for quite a while about aloneness, for as I mentioned
earlier, after Shaumbra froze me into this state of crystalline non-movement,
I spent literally hundreds of thousands of years alone by myself. So, you do
not know alone, like I do.
You are trying… and we know you are going to disagree with us already.
You are already hollering at us. You are trying to build on your own story.
You are trying to bring a partner into your Old story. And, you’re just
trying to make your story a little bit more comfortable. When will you understand
that it's just a story… it’s just an illusion… and, it's time
to let go of it? But, yet quite naturally, you’re trying to hold on.
As we said before, under the influence of hypnosis the aspect-self will do
anything it can to maintain itself, to justify itself. It will even try to pull
in a partner, telling itself it is incomplete without it. It will try to create
careers for itself and passions.
How many of you have lost your passion over these last years because it is
time for that to go? It was a passion that just served as a story-builder. It
is time to let all of that go. We know it is difficult. But, yet it is so simple.
But, yet we have to come back over and over again and let you know it is time
to let go, let you know that you don't have to hold onto the Old stories. You
would be really angry with us if we were doing things to help you build that
Old story even bigger. It is time that we are disassembling the stories so you
can see who you truly are.
LINDA: You’re kind of calling yourself sort of a victim of Shaumbra.
Can you help us understand that better? (audience laughter)
Saint-Germain: Indeed… and in the Shoud earlier, I made it very clear
that I chose to walk through that door. There is no victimhood here. But, I
love telling stories about it (more laughter).
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 13 (a woman at the microphone): Hello, this is really
very hard for me to stand here. But, I had to do it. But, I don’t really
understand why it’s so hard. But, I did it anyway.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: We are going to ask you to be very still for a moment
here and to feel a transformation that you are allowing yourself to make, even
though it feels a bit uncomfortable up here like this. I am going to ask you
to feel the love of Shaumbra surrounding you right now, loving you. We are going
to ask you to feel how really, truly that you are not stuck in this thing…
that it is not… it only feels hard… it really isn't. It only feels
like mistakes were made. But, they haven’t been.
We are going to ask you for a moment here to feel that it is all an illusion.
And, everything will tell you that it's not. Everything will try to tell you
that it's real, but it isn’t. It is an illusion.
There are energies in you right now that want to move. They want to be flushed
out. They want to be set free. But, there is a part of yourself that felt that
they had to stay put, part of you that felt that you had to go through a suffering,
and more than anything, if you look really deeply, you will see part of you
that feared who you truly are. So, you created this wonderful matrix all around
you, this wonderful matrix that caused you to not come out, to not be who you
are, to stay under your own spell. It only appears to be hard. It only appears
to be difficult.
SHAUMBRA 13: But, I’m fine. But, it’s walking in front of people
and standing here.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: Indeed… but it is really about not just standing
here, not just walking in front of people. But, it is really about being who
you are, as you say, not hiding, not keeping yourself suppressed and hidden.
It goes far beyond just the fear of standing in front of others. It goes into
the whole aspect of the fear of being who you are, the fear of letting yourself
out of that box now.
SHAUMBRA 13: Thank you.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: Indeed… and simply by standing here in this moment
of time, it has allowed the energies inside of you to change, to move. And,
you may feel some effects of this in the next few days, a kind of releasing
and a cleaning and cleansing out. And, this is a good thing for you right now.
SHAUMBRA 13: Yeah, it’s been like… oh, shoot, probably the last
two years I’ve had this argument – “No, I’m not going
to stand in front of people.” So, I was very brave today.
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: Indeed… indeed. (applause from audience)
SHAUMBRA 13: So, I can go now? (audience laughter)
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: Or, you can continue standing there (more laughter).
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 14 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, I was wondering
if you could shed some light on the recent events that happened in my life and
the people that came into it… and, also in particular, what happened a
couple of days ago… and, how to move forward with this?
TOBIAS: Again, we would ask you to not be so cryptic and to share more of the
details of this for others who would benefit from what you have to say.
SHAUMBRA 14: About this dark hole that I feel like I’ve been in for the
past few months? And, how I’m going to release this energy so I can move
on because I don’t recognize myself anymore? And, the feeling… what
happened two nights ago when I was half asleep, and I felt… I don’t
what it was, but it was some kind of energy that was forcing me down on the
bed. And, I couldn’t move, and it scared me, and I don’t know what
TOBIAS: We are going to ask you right now to transcend any of this suppression
and just allow your own self to come through. What happened here? What happened
here? You know already.
SHAUMBRA 14: I don’t think I do. I feel like I’m in a limbo. I
feel like everything is changing around me and that I don’t know how to
TOBIAS: But, you say you don’t how to move forward, but you do. So, why
are you resisting it? Why do you hold yourself in this suspended state of belief
right now and expect that we’re going to get you out of it?
SHAUMBRA 14: That would be nice! (laughter from questioner and from audience)
I don’t want to hold it. I don’t want to… I’m confused.
TOBIAS: So, what was holding you down? What was this?
SHAUMBRA 14: Fear?
TOBIAS: You tell us. Do you feel this was on the inside or on the outside?
SHAUMBRA 14: It felt like it was coming from the outside.
TOBIAS: I am going to go back to Adamus said before. Under the state of hypnosis
the aspect-self will do anything it can to justify its existence, including
feeling that you are in a hole, including feeling that you are being held down,
and that you are not being granted your freedom, that you are dis-empowered,
that you are not a Creator. So, what is happening here in your life?
SHAUMBRA 14: I guess I’m trying to make changes that are scary, that
are taking me to new places. And, I don’t know how to do that.
TOBIAS: Indeed… or perhaps, also along with that is this whole fear again
of truly knowing who you are, of letting yourself move beyond Old Energy and
Old limitations, and truly becoming who you are. Now, we have to thank you for
standing in front of this group during this grueling time like this because
you are helping others to understand that the thing that causes the most fear…
and we’ve gone through this with all of you in your dream state. The thing
that causes the most fear is remembering who you are. It causes such a violent
reaction in your being – particularly when you bring yourself back to
this three-dimensional state of being – that again you freeze. You allow
yourself to believe that you're less than you are. There is this intense fear
of letting yourself out, this intense fear of being who you are. So, you have
to consider why is this fear there? Why would you possibly fear being who you
are? So, why? Why would you fear being God also?
SHAUMBRA 14: Cuz it’s a lot overwhelming?
TOBIAS: Indeed (some laughter)… indeed, perhaps the fear this brings
up in all of you is that, first of all, those are some big shoes to fill –
to be God… but only under the current hypnotic state that you're in…
the belief that you have in God… that God that is big and powerful and
controls everything. So, there is this intense fear that you can't possibly
fill those shoes.
On the other side is the fear that perhaps there is no God, perhaps you are
just the result of some cosmic accident that created life here on Earth, and
you live, you know, a simple life, and then you die, and nothing happens. There
is no God – that is the other fear.
So, these two fears are here, causing you – but really causing everyone
– to freeze in their tracks and to then create imaginary things, like
dark holes, and beings holding them back. And, it causes them to believe in
conspiracy theories, and all of these other things that simply hold you back.
So, if you could let go of all the belief systems and all of the hypnotic effects
that you carry with you about what God is, or isn't, and you just let yourself
feel what Spirit has always been and always will be, you have no shoes to fill.
It is only about letting yourself experience the God-self within once again.
Yes, it does seem that all of the darknesses… and all of the angers…
and the hates… and all of the fears come to the forefront when you are
at this point. And, they are. But, you are not the only one experiencing this.
So, now is the time to transcend that. And, indeed, Adams will be back in our
next gathering to show everyone how to literally move out of that. But, you
bring up a wonderful, wonderful issue. Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 14: Thank you.
LINDA: Last question, should you so choose.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 15 (a woman at the microphone): Dearest Saint-Germain,
Adamus, my question is – is the general decline in human intelligence
and all sorts of birth defects… retardation… ADD… all of the
kinds of thing we are seeing in our civilization now… are they the results
of experiments that we were working with in Atlantis, kind of like what you
were talking about? And, is that why so many of us went into human services,
helping professions? And, is our karma/responsibility towards a lot of this
suffering that it seems like we created… is it… can we walk out
of it now? Is it finished, etc? Thank you.
Saint-Germain: Indeed… wonderful questions. The major reason right now
for the distortions and the disease in the biology, as well as the – how
to say – the changing of the human mind are not so much directly related
to Atlantis, although there are some fringe elements there. But, right now it
is more a combination of individual karma of a human. And, when there is the
non-acceptance or the anger with who they are, and they bring this into biology,
it shows up in the biology as disease and imbalance.
There are also some overall group consciousness reasons for some of the things
that are going on. There are groups of humans who are working literally at changing
DNA structures. And, this has a tendency at times to cause some distortions
in the biology. There are those who are living out group or family karma. And,
this again will bring in the distortions.
There are, for instance, in this disease known as AIDS… it is a manifestation
of humanity’s sexual guilt consciousness that those who are 13-stranders
– what you would call gays and lesbians – are bringing onto themselves
on behalf of humanity to help better understand the sexual guilt. But, as we
have said before, it is not necessary for them to do this any more. There are
other ways of handling energy changes and problems.
The mental imbalances that you speak of are so often right now caused by this
change of energy going from mental, or a mind-type of intelligence, to a Divine
Intelligence. The mind is almost rebelling and almost shutting down in many
cases, for it wants to be relieved of the burdens that have been placed on it.
And, this is causing – how to say – deterioration of the Old mind
skills. But, for those humans who are ready, the Divine Intelligence will quickly
pick up where the mind leaves off and will expand far beyond that.
So, biology is an interesting thing. It is a very delicate fabric. It is a
very, very delicate type of organism. It has been susceptible to disease and
all sorts of other types of fluctuations. But, as we have talked about recently,
we are coming to the point where the biology doesn’t have to suffer. And,
the biology doesn’t have to take the brunt of what is going on inside
the soul of the person.
We are coming to a point where the biology can remain very balanced and literally,
as with the energies of Saint-Germain, he maintained an appearance of looking
approximately in the mid-30s to forty-ish… he felt that was the most appropriate
age to be at. He maintained that look, even though the biological body that
he had was at well over a hundred years old. And, this is something that all
of you can do as well. Thank you for your question.
We will take one more.
LINDA: Tobias, would that be the little bit of talk that Brian had about the
transformation in England maybe, or is it a…
TOBIAS/Saint-Germain: We would like to do one more question, and we will…
then we will go into that.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, the abundance
presentation recorded in San Diego, November, 2004, leaves a big question in
my mind about those individuals who have their credit cards maxed out. Did they
think they had flow, but didn’t? Please elaborate.
TOBIAS: Now, we could go into a whole long discussion of credit cards. We call
these “karma cards” on our side (audience laughter). The underlying
challenge or difficulty here is that thinking that you can go out and charge
things is going to bring abundance into your life. But, you are still carrying
with you a lack-of-abundance issue. You are still carrying this hypnotic effect
that there are limitations in the financial system. So, whether you put it on
a credit card or not, you still have this underlying issue. As a matter of fact,
it’s only going to compound the issue and put it directly in your face.
And, then we’re going to have another class about how to overcome these
Yes, these credit cards are a… oh, they are simply another form of hypnosis,
saying, “Here, use this, and everything will be fine for a few days.”
(some laughter) But, then the monster comes back even bigger than before. So,
this is not a way to solve the problems. The abundance will manifest for you
immediately in the moment. You don’t have to go out and tempt it with
this thing called a credit card. Thank you.
With that, Shaumbra, we will bring our energies to a close. There is a brief
discussion here we would like you to pay attention to and give your energies
to. But, from our standpoint we will remove ourselves from Cauldre’s body
now, for it is growing tired. And, we will have a very exciting next month with
all of you.
And so it is!
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe, aka "Cauldre,"
in Golden, Colorado. The story of Tobias, from the biblical Book of Tobit, can
be found on the Crimson Circle web site at www.crimsoncircle.com. The Tobias
Materials have been offered free of charge to lightworkers and Shaumbra around
the world since August 1999, the time when Tobias said humanity moved past the
potential of destruction and into the New Energy.
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The Crimson Circle meets monthly in the Denver, Colorado area where Tobias
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and the others of the celestial Crimson Council are actually channeling the
humans. According to Tobias, they are reading our energies and translating our
own information back to us so we can see it from the outside, while experiencing
it on the inside. The "Shoud" is the portion of the channeling where
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The ultimate purpose of the Crimson Circle is to serve as human guides
and teachers to those walking the path of inner spiritual awakening. This is
not an evangelical mission. Rather, the inner light will guide people to your
doorstep for your compassion and care. You will know what to do and teach in
that moment, when the unique and precious human who is about to embark on the
journey of the Bridge of Swords comes to you.
If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are
indeed Shaumbra. You are a teacher and a human guide. Allow the seed of divinity
to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never
alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around
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