THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
Series: "SHOUD 4"
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson Circle
November 6, 2004
And so it is, dear Shaumbra, that we return to the energy of this gathering,
the energy of this time of changes. We know that some of you are already –
how to say – negotiating this whole issue (some laughter) of energy holding
and energy moving, for you have become proficient, and you are loving with the
energy holding. It is near and dear to you. It is in your cells. It is in your
consciousness. It is a part of you, truly.
It is like letting go of part of Self, a letting go of a job that you have
had for so very long and done so very well at. So, we know that there is a portion
of your energy that is saying, “Perhaps, I can let go of some of the more
difficult energy holding (more laughter), but I will keep some that I'm truly
invested in. And, I will do some energy moving.”
But, we have to share with you, Shaumbra – it is difficult to do both.
The energy characteristics of holding and moving are totally different. It is
like one is holding a stone in your hand, putting it in your pocket, and carrying
it with you versus an Energy Mover would throw the stone and cause new actions
to take place, cause that stone to be thrown appropriately at the right time
in the right place to make a difference for others. So, it is difficult to hold
the stone and to throw it at the same time (more laughter).
So, if this is what is going through your mind and through your heart right
now, we ask you to breathe with this for a while. You don't have to give up
your old job right away. We ask you to breathe with it for a while and to take
a look at why you would want to move into being an Energy Mover right now.
We do tell you that Energy Movers are very needed on the planet right now.
It is a very new type of position. It will involve continued changes in your
life. But, it will involve a whole new way of understanding what energy is and
how it works and how it can work for you in these new times. We know there are
many questions on this day, so I, Tobias – and perhaps some of the other
guests – would be delighted to begin the answering of them.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, my question
is regarding my father. Is the drug used today for amnesia all over the world
bad for people? And, as Shaumbra, what can I do best for this situation?
TOBIAS: Indeed, we are talking about drugs here to help those who are in the
process of transitioning to remember more and to maintain their mental faculties.
It is to help them keep aware and sharpened. It is – how to say –
a difficult question, for there are those who are elderly or going through a
transitional time who want to remain as sharp as possible and as present as
possible until the last possible moment. But, they have to understand that there
is an aspect of themselves that is releasing the grip on their mental faculties,
so they can go out and explore what it is like to cross over.
Now, it raises some interesting questions. When you leave the human body and
cross over to our side and come to our side of the veil, there is not a set
criteria of what happens. There are many variations. It all depends on a combination
of your belief systems and what you choose to embody.
You can come back to our side and choose to bring in a grand feast or celebration
for yourself, to be an honored guest at your own party of your own creation.
You can choose to come back to our side and hold onto perhaps some religious
beliefs that would have you waiting for the savior, waiting to be judged. And,
we are delighted to wait with you. And, you will be waiting for a long, long
time (audience laughter).
Many of you, Shaumbra, when you come back to our side, you will choose to –
how to say – come back here and spend a bit of time. You will choose to
take a look at many of the experiences of your life and to play them out or
to replay them on many different dimensional levels. You will choose to come
back here, as some Shaumbra already have done, and you will take different potentials
and look at them to see what would have happened if you would have chosen different
potentials. But, when you come back here, there is no set pattern.
So, what happens when – how to say – a non-awakened human begins
their transition process and the realization that they are about to die comes
over them, they begin to go off and explore all of the different possibilities.
They begin to explore the religious and spiritual nature. They begin to explore
death. In a sense, they are probing on our side for where they want to land
once they leave their body.
So, to take these drugs that you are speaking of here deprives the mind and
the spirit of going out and doing this probing. But, yet it keeps them more
aware, more functional in your world. So, they have to make the choice.
And, we have to remind you here that it is not for the families to make the
choice for them. Many times the families want to give them these pills, demand
that these pills be taken, so that these transitioning ones can be – how
to say – more able to take care of themselves and to hold conversations
and such things. But, you have to understand that there is also an important
aspect of letting the mind go, letting the mind wander off prior to death taking
place. We are not particularly advocates of any of the drugs that alter the
psychological and the psycho-spiritual nature of the human because sooner or
later the toll will have to be paid. Thank you.
LINDA: In addition, do you have any recommendations for our group work in Israel
at this time?
TOBIAS: Indeed, indeed, indeed… more than any group that we can speak
to right now it is time for you who are so ingrained and imbedded with the energy
of holding to let go. We told you this when we were in Israel. It is time to
be Energy Movers. You can do more for yourself and for the entire region of
the Mideast. You can do more for the spirituality of Earth if you allow yourselves
to be Energy Movers. We are going to come and visit all of you soon, in Spirit
first, and then in physical body. And, we are going to see how good of a job
you have done at letting go of energies that you hold on to. You almost can’t
help yourselves. So, I, Tobias – and Ohamah – will come to help
you (audience laughter).
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Namaskar… I don’t
come with a question. I actually come with an invitation. And, there are eight
of us that are fearlessly going to climb up to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro
in February. And, I am here to invite you, and the rest of my team particularly
– I need the help – to fully participate and come with us on top
of the mountain. We’ll be there in late February of next year. We have
been planning this trip for almost a full year. And, there seems to be a very
powerful aspect to climbing Mount Kilimanjaro. And, there seems to be a powerful
aspect for those people that have chosen to join this little trip that we put
together. So, please come. I really would like to have you there with me.
TOBIAS: Indeed, and the invitation should be for all of Shaumbra. As you know
I, Tobias, and the others will be floating along beside you as you make your
ascent. But, this is – how to say – more than a climb. This is a
spiritual metaphor and – how to say – as you say, a participatory
type of thing. Kilimanjaro holds many – what we would call – potentials
for Earth, for humanity within its very structure, within its very stones. And,
these potentials are ready to start coming forward. And, we have to add here
with – how to say – with a bit of wink here that it needs Energy
Movers to feel this energy and to feel the energy of Gaia surrounding it in
order for these to start to be released to Earth. You are not opening portals
here, and you are not doing anything like that. But, what you are doing is helping
to begin a spiral of energy movement here. And, yes, you should invite all of
Shaumbra to be with you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Dear Tobias, I
am working in a hospital for psycho-somatic diseases. There I am noticing more
and more young female patients, most of them with eating disorders, who are
hurting themselves by cutting their arms or legs. Please tell me – what’s
your idea about the reasons for this phenomenon, and how can we improve the
treatment of these humans? Thank you and best wishes.
TOBIAS: Indeed, there are very difficult energies associated with this. And
– how to say – it has to do with depriving the body of any type
of joy. It has to do with depriving the soul of the beauty of the feminine energy.
And, some will blame it on the social pressures to be – how to say –
in a thin body. But, the underlying issue is more depriving Self of the joy
of living, and down to the point where it comes to even inflicting wounds on
the physical body to deface itself. These are ones who – how to say –
are carrying deep and old wounds.
And, it is very difficult in this short time to give a specific answer of how
to deal with them. But, it has to do – as all of you Shaumbra know –
it has to do with coming to love yourself in every part. And, this is a very
long and difficult road with many of these humans. It is very important for
them to see a human like yourself and other Shaumbra who have actually made
it through the most difficult of times, made it to the point where you can say,
“I truly love every part of myself. I truly embody everything. And, I
am choosing this right now. I am choosing whatever is happening in my life.
And, if I can choose it, I can also change it.”
And, we feel that we are just glossing over the subject. We could talk about
it in great detail. But, you also have the experience from what you have gone
through in your life to understand what it takes to get another human to love
themselves. So, begin with that. And, we will come in to work with you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): After that song, I’m
afraid to ask my question. But, I’ve been seeing something the last few
days that I’m feeling like is an aspect of myself. But, it’s like
a golden, liquid blob. And, I just want a little understanding of that.
TOBIAS: And, what do you think that it is? (audience laughter)
SHAUMBRA 4: An aspect of myself that is trying to merge with all of me.
TOBIAS: Indeed, indeed. An interesting thing is happening right now that you
and other Shaumbra are beginning to experience that most humans don't. And,
it is that there is a melding that is taking place, that there is an opening
for every part of yourself to come in.
There is this thing called the “oversoul” that you humans talk
about. The oversoul is a collective of all of the energies of everything you
have been. It is not this grand angel that is controlling everything. You have
to understand YOU are the grand angel controlling everything. The oversoul is
your collective. And, it is looking to come back in to serve you through all
of its various experiences. But, you cannot look to it for the answers, but
simply for the presence.
There is also – how to say – your divinity. Your divinity is what
we call the pure essence. It is the most innocent… and the most grand…
and the most glorious of all energies. And, it was – how to say –
sealed away for so very long by all humans, by most angels… as a matter-of-fact,
by most angels. Most angels will have to come the way of Earth to reintegrate
with their divinity.
So, you are seeing aspects and feeling aspects of yourself. And, it is a grand
and glorious time that these are coming in. By default for you – and for
any of you – if you are seeing things and feeling things, or dreaming
of things, understand that it is you, that it is parts of you. Use this as your
default when you dream of strange and unusual things. You are really dreaming
of yourself. When you feel presences around you – as we were talking earlier
today of the Atlantean energies – it is that aspect of you. It comes to
you. It is all flowing to you right now.
So, you are very perceptive, very wise to know that this is part of you. It
will change. It will be difficult to go back and try to recreate it because
it will continue to change and evolve and to be with you in new ways. And, we
are going to tell you – you personally – you are going to find and
understand a whole new definition of being in love because it is going to be
about being in love with yourself. Thank you for this delightful question.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Well, I’m
pretty depressed and disappointed in the mentality of half of America’s
voters (much audience laughter).
TOBIAS: Cauldre wants to know if this is Linda, or if she is reading a question
(more laughter and applause).
LINDA: I would be reading a question, but if you could feel my soul coming
through it that would be okay as an Energy Mover. (Continuing now with the question)…
Half of America’s voters… they liked being lied to, I guess. The
last time I lived in the D.C. area – see, it wasn’t me (comment
from Linda) – it was the early 70’s and Nixon resigned. Boy, I’m
ready to look for citizenship with another country. I feel like we’re
repeating the “decline of the Roman Empire.” (more laughter) Did
I want to be in Italy when the barbarians/terrorists came pouring in, attracted
by our idiot and antagonist emperor? Maybe you could slip in this question to
Tobias this weekend? Is this the U.S. repeating the decline of the Roman Empire?
Thanks, and take care. Pete.
TOBIAS: Indeed, indeed… as you know, you were – how to say –
very much a part of this Roman Empire. And, you have always held a strong affinity
for Italy and those regions. And, you did watch this empire come apart through
a combination of lust and greed and perhaps enjoying life in some very interesting
ways. And, it has been heavy within you ever since. And, now you have this Old
fear come up.
It is really not about this America where you live. It is not about that at
all. But, it is an Old fear about the abuse of power. You have found your way
back to this area of this power center in Washington time and time again. You
almost can't help yourself because of your previous experiences with the Romans
and having to do with power and wanting to help hold an energy (some laughter).
So, we suggest to you first of all that it is time to let go of this energy
holding. It is wearing on you and your family by feeling you have to be right
in the center of this to hold energy and essentially depriving yourself of other
possibilities and many joys in your life of putting yourself there.
It is also to say that we ask you – we ask all of you – to take
a look at what is happening. As you know, governments and politics are simply
a reflection of consciousness. It is simply the consciousness of all humanity
coming through in your leaders, whether they are dictators, whether they are
elected. So, we ask you to look at the consciousness of the Americas right now.
Perhaps, there is a fear of moving forward. Perhaps, there is also a concern
that there needs to be a specific level of those holding in Old Energy so others
can move into the New and have a type of balance or a type of tether.
So, we ask you to look beyond the obvious. It is not just about lying, for
all politicians are known for doing that, no matter what party they come from.
They want to tell people what they want to hear. That is why they go into politics
(audience laughter). So, we ask you to take a look at the dynamics of what is
really happening, and also the fact that this recent election was so extremely
close, so balanced in a way.
And, yes, the ones who hold an older energy did seem to maintain their position
right now. But, as you can expect, as the pendulum swings, you will see great
changes in the next two and four years of time. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, Tobias. When I moved
here several months ago, I opened my house to Shaumbra, just inviting them to
stay with me if they were passing through. I would like to understand the energy
there. So many have come, stayed for a few hours to a few months. I want to
know what’s going on. They experience a lot of stuff, and especially the
specific group that is here this weekend with me.
TOBIAS: You ask a question that you already know the answer to (some laughter).
So, we ask you to share with us – what is it that draws Shaumbra in? What
is it that has them come to this place?
SHAUMBRA 6: I feel that I hold a space for energy to move.
TOBIAS: And, what else?
SHAUMBRA 6: It’s a safe place to come. People are accepted.
TOBIAS: Anything else?
SHAUMBRA 6: Probably, that I can’t think of right now.
TOBIAS: You – how to say – we don’t want to have Ohamah come
in for this (much laughter). We have some other angels holding him by the arms
SHAUMBRA 6: Thank them for me.
TOBIAS: How do you – how to say – what do you feel when these people
come? What do you feel is happening when they come to this place?
SHAUMBRA 6: We are re-connecting.
TOBIAS: No, how do YOU feel?
SHAUMBRA 6: Joy… like I’m meeting family again.
TOBIAS: And, family from…
SHAUMBRA 6: Many times.
TOBIAS: And, how do you relate to them? What is your – how to say –
we are trying not to give you the answer. But, what is your relationship to
SHAUMBRA 6: I would say someone who – diplomat is not quite the right
word – but someone who holds, who helps make connections.
TOBIAS: Perhaps, we could help you with the words here (more laughter).
SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you.
TOBIAS: The ones who are attracted here have been together before, as you know.
And, you can feel this. And, they can feel this. This is a rekindling of Old
Energies and a coming back together. You have shared many, many lifetimes together.
Your lifetimes seem to crisscross each other back and forth. In some of these,
more particularly the recent ones, you have been a teacher and a leader and
a guide for them. But, you have also been an energy holder, as you have said,
And, now you are all – how to say – gathering together again, wondering,
knowing that something is happening, but not quite sure what. So, there are
many questions – why are we here… why are we drawn here… where
do we go next… what should our plan be? And, there are many of you who
are saying that we should have no plan, but yet there is an overall frustration
that there is no plan (laughter).
You feel you should be doing something. Part of it is for you to help release
some of the Old Energy holding that you have been doing for them. Part of it
is to let go of the Old Energy role that you have had with them as a teacher,
so that you are all working with each other on a peer level. This would help
empower them and help release you from some of the things you have been carrying.
In terms of any sort of plan, there doesn't need to be one. Simply by making
this reconnection, so many of the Old Energies come back into balance. Some
will be drawn for a very short period of time. And, some will come and go, in
and out the door, so to speak.
But, more important, because you are asking the question, it is a time for
you to release the Old role and step into a New type of role. And, you have
been doing this. You have been – how to say – very quickly learning
how to release things and to move into the New you. We know it is challenging
and difficult. But, at the same time those who come to stay with you are supporting
you in that. So, there are a variety of reasons for it. And, all of this will
SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, I am living
very difficult moments with myself without a job. Even when I know that I have
very strong passion about science, everything seems to be opposed to that. In
some moments I want to go that side of the veil, but I realize that I have done
so much living. It is like that some moments I love to live, and some moments
my humanity is tired. Some input about these very difficult moments? I thank
you and to all the beings of the light and that side of the veil.
TOBIAS: Indeed, and you speak for Shaumbra, for so many Shaumbra that are having
difficult times, whether it is with a job, or health, or many issues of not
knowing whether you want to stay or leave. You – how to say – have
had your expectations crushed in many ways and your hopes pulled out from underneath
you. And, again this is all… this is truly all part of the change, this
whole change process. The human expectations… you have allowed to be crushed,
and many of the – how to say – plans or aspirations and hopes you
have allowed to be pulled out from underneath you. You search earnestly, and
you search vigorously for answers.
But, we have to tell you very specifically – we are focusing on you –
all of these are within your realm. And, you know, when you and I talk, and
I say this to you, and you say, “Yes, I know but Tobias those are just
words; I don't see the answers already within me.” That is because you
are still struggling in the mind. You are still holding Old Energies from the
These don't need to be manipulated or forced or anything else. All of the answers
are right there. It is very difficult to explain this, but if you just allow
them into your life, this fearless acceptance of embodiment, of bringing everything
in, letting it into your life. And, you are going through the most challenging
and difficult stage that any human angel will ever go through. We have called
this “the dark night of the soul,” “the Bridge of Swords.”
It is the time when you feel the most alone, even though you are not. It is
a difficult, difficult time. It doesn't need to be that way.
You can see from the example of other Shaumbra – those who have gotten
through that difficult time – you can see that… and they will tell
you that when they stopped searching, and they stopped the – how to say
– the anger, and they stopped trying to find the answers outside of themselves,
then it just appeared. And, we know these sound like words. These sound like
platitudes until you experience what it is like. And, then you will understand.
And, we thank you for your question. And, we know you will work your way into
accepting who you truly are.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, there. My friend,
Betty, has an extraordinary little boy called Mattie. And, there is a lot of
concern about him because he hasn’t started to talk yet. Could you talk
a little about Mattie and maybe give some advice for Betty, please?
TOBIAS: Indeed… we’re having to check the energy of this here.
This one that you speak of here, we’re being told, brings in – how
to say – some of the – we don’t like to do categories –
but some of the newer, some of the more crystalline energy. And, this one has
chosen to be an absorber of energy, not to – how to say – be an
expresser at this point, and that they have not made a decision yet if they
will remain this way, or if they will be more communicative. But, it is to not
be overly concerned about it, and not try to… it is very important, we’re
being told, not to try to force this dear one into speaking. They know fully
well how to. It is whether they choose to or not. Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 8: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 9 (a man at the microphone): Hello, Tobias, my question
– and I actually have two parts to this – is a few years ago I developed
a chemical depression in my brain. And, I guess the biggest question I have
is… a lot of people in the world now seem to suffer from this with all
the drugs on the market and all of the advertisements. And, it’s not just
in the United States. It’s the entire world. And, do you have anything
you can tell me about that, and something that might help my condition personally?
TOBIAS: Indeed, the depression is not caused by the chemicals, but the chemicals
are a result of a deeper – how to say – spiritual imbalance, or
a deeper soul level type of depression. The drugs are simply a means to help
alleviate or help to reduce the symptoms that are coming through. The depression
has to do so often with many of the burdens carried by the inner being…
for the burdens of guilt… the burdens of judgment for things that they
have done wrong. Other times this depression is caused by – as we were
speaking of today – holding too much energy for others.
In your case, in particular, this is… you have been an energy holder
for many others, as you know. You tend to absorb their problems. And, you tend
to absorb their pains and feelings. And, you have, in a sense, deprived yourself
of this sufficient level of energy into your own being, into your own reality.
You have, in a sense, squeezed off the energy that comes from “the field,”
or the source of all, and used it for others, but have not given yourself enough.
So, it is the inner part of your being crying for love from you, crying for
acceptance from you, showing its face as depression, which depression, as you
know, overtakes your entire being. It takes your mind and your body. It takes
your attention absolutely. It will… the depression… a portion of
yourself… is almost like a drowning person. It is so in need of love and
so in need of attention that it will smother you, or kill you, or perhaps cause
you to kill yourself because it needs you so much.
It is time for you right now, as we said in our gathering today, to release
all of the energies that you have been holding for others. Even if you are not
consciously aware, just allow yourself to release all of this energy holding.
And, we look at you right now – and we know there are some energy workers
in the room that can also help with this – but you need to let some of
these go. And, these are age-old, lifetime-old energy holdings. And, you have
deprived yourself of attention and love. And, now yourself is screaming to you
to give you these things.
We recommend that you get intensive bodywork and massage work done, particularly
from Shaumbra, if possible, or those who understand the true workings of what
happens in the tissue in the body. Get this done immediately and get it done
intensely. Get it done often. And, you may say to yourself that the resources
may not be there for this, but you will find that once you start giving yourself
the gift of love that yourself gives you the gift of abundance as well. So,
this is very important, not for you, and we thank you for asking this question
for yourself, but also for so many Shaumbra who are experiencing this, the crippling
effects of the depression. And, we ask you to take a look at what is really
happening here. You have given so much of yourself that you have forgotten to
love yourself. Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 9: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 10 (from the Internet, read by Linda): I would appreciate
your opinions regarding Mayan and his ancient sciences of Vaastu and its appropriateness
in the New Energy. Is he slated to speak in an upcoming Shoud?
TOBIAS: He is not on the schedule to speak at an upcoming Shoud, but we can
talk to him and have him see. And, so many of the – we are having to look
into this energy also. This one you speak of is – how to say – currently
changing his curriculum or adjusting some of the things that had been spoken
or written earlier. There will be a reappearance of this material under a different
name after 2007. And – how to say – but until then there will not
be much information coming from this source. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 11 (a man at the microphone): Hello, Tobias, how are
you guys doing over there (audience laughter)?
TOBIAS: We toast to you (more laughter).
SHAUMBRA 11: There are two things that I would like to get some light on. Over
the past couple of years a project has been building up that I am sort of burning
for. And, it’s a boat project, and supposedly I’m supposed to be
the first to circumnavigate the globe with an electric boat. Can you shed a
little bit of light on that… also, the energy form because it is something
new coming up. And, I have a trip to New York to turn out on that.
TOBIAS: Interesting… we are looking here at the energy of this. And –
how to say – it is difficult to try to share what is coming up because
we don’t want to take that experience away from you. But, we are saying
here that because there may be some delays in here don't assume that the project
wasn't meant to be. The delays are simply a way for energies and resources needed
for this to come back together… a delay that perhaps is a year or so…
a delay in this project that will actually come back to serve you in a much
better way. So, stay very open to this.
And, we see here the potential that you have chosen and those who work with
you. We see that this will be accomplished. But, there will be – again
we are looking at potentials only – there will be some of the ones that
you work with, or are working with, that will be leaving the project for various
reasons. But, that is good because it then opens the way for others to come
in. So, our advice is to continue working on this and to let the light come
in a variety of different ways.
SHAUMBRA 11: Thank you.
LINDA: Last question, should you so choose it.
TOBIAS: We will take a few more from those standing and waiting.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 12 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, Tobias. I wonder
if you could speak to me around a financial decision that I just recently made
and speak to the intent of the process and the outcome.
TOBIAS: How to say – we are going to have to put that back on you. And,
we are going to ask you about why you selected this energy in the first place,
and what your intent was and what your potentials are that you’re going
to bring into this.
SHAUMBRA 12: My intent was… it felt as a tool to step outside of mass
consciousness in this area. And, my desire for the outcome is freedom.
TOBIAS: Indeed… and so it is. You have chosen this. And, now it is about
allowing it to manifest itself. It will take some of your time and attention,
of course, but it, in a sense, you could say, you have helped to give birth
to this, and we see it now beginning to blossom. It is something for you right
now to hold to yourself. In other words, it is not time to go out and try to
share this, or even to teach it right now, but to watch how it progresses. Watch
the different twists and turns that it takes. This is a good time for you to
stand behind the short wall to truly see how it works. And, then you will want
to make some adjustments as you go along with this. But, we see that it has
excellent, phenomenal potential.
SHAUMBRA 12: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 13 (a woman at the microphone): Hi, Tobias. I just can’t
seem to get a good sleep. It’s very fitful. I’m tired! So, what
can I do about this?
TOBIAS: This is something, once again, that so many Shaumbra are going through.
And, there are a variety of reasons for it. There are some of the – how
to say – some of the basic reasons are that your biological body and its
rhythms and movements are very much tied into the movements of Gaia. And, for
so long the body would sleep and be in a waking state as it had to do with Gaia,
and indeed the sun and the moon and all of these things.
Now, you are coming to a point where you are changing your inner being. And,
as you do, you are not connecting to Gaia biologically as you once did. So,
this throws all of the sleep patterns off, and it makes it very, very frustrating.
Shaumbra is finding that they sometimes sleep better in the middle of the day.
This is very difficult if you have a day job. But, some of you are finding how
to sleep on the job (audience laughter). Many of you are finding that you wake
during the middle of the night. And, as we have said for years, it is best not
to toss and turn, but to actually get up. This could be one of the most creative
portions of your day, even though it is difficult to get out of bed in the middle
of the night. But, you will find yourself highly creative. And, you will find
yourself developing new ideas and projects at this time.
There are also other elements coming in. There are… the sleep patterns
are being disturbed by the dream states that you are going into because you
are pulling in so many other energies right now. As we mentioned today, the
Atlantean energies have been very, very present in the dreams, and this causes
quite a bit of fear at times, quite a bit of sadness at times. But, these energies
are coming back. And, also some of the pre-Earth energies are coming back in
right now, visiting. And, you are also trying to work out things that happened
a long, long time ago. So, essentially all of this destroys what was once the
most peaceful time of the day, during the sleep.
We are finding that ultimately Shaumbra will come to the point where much less
sleep is needed, where you can have what you call your – how to say –
“power sleeping.” And, you can have… condense it all in a
very short period of time. And, your body, although it is tired right now, won't
need nearly the amount of rejuvenation time or sleep time that it needed before.
Again, it can be done very, very quickly.
So, this whole tiredness thing will pass. You have to understand your body
and all of your energy. They absolutely know the proper amount of sleep. And,
it might be difficult for you to keep up with it, but you will never…
you won’t die from not getting enough sleep. You will just be uncomfortable
for a while. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 14 (a man at the microphone): I have two questions.
One is why… I’ve been looking for a job for a while. And, I want
one, you know, with money, not what I’ve been encountering. And, so I’d
like to look for that. And, also I’ve been doing a channing project for
a better way for the Israelis and Palestinians. And, I want to know if I am
moving or holding energy. So, that’s it.
TOBIAS: Indeed, the answer to the second question… this process you have
been going through is part of your work as an energy holder, not as an Energy
Mover. And, we suggest you let that go now, even though it may be difficult.
In terms of allowing for the abundance into your life, we do ask you to take
a look. There is a direct correlation between your two questions, even though
they may appear to be separate. But, they are directly related. So, you once
you let go of the energy holding, a new flow of abundance can come in. And,
this job that has been circling you – it’s not so much a job –
this work, this way of abundance that has been circling around you lately, but
has not been able to land, will now be able to land. You see… they work
together. Thank you.
LINDA: I believe this will be the last question. But, I invite you to be polite.
QUESTION FROM SH AUMBRA 15 (a man at the microphone): Hi, guys. I’m not
sure what my question is anymore. I guess it’s maybe not a question so
much as given where I live and given the situation that I have chosen and the
fact that I’ve got it – I’m God also, I got that – I
guess I’m just looking for affirmation as to – or maybe you can
help me with the right questions to ask myself – why I chose to be where
TOBIAS: Would you like I, Tobias, to answer that… or Ohamah? (audience
SHAUMBRA 15: I’m open.
TOBIAS: We have kept Ohamah working – how to say – in the audience
today. I relinquished enough of my seat last month. So, it is a question that
– how to say – it is best that you ask yourself, which we know you
have. But, it is best to continue asking yourself about why all the circumstances
When you ask yourself, take a look at everything. Take a look at all of the
various aspects of what is going on. And, take a look at what your expectations
are. And, take a look at what your real soul desire is right now. It goes –
this whole issue that you're working through – goes far beyond the human
questions that you ask, but the whole soul desire.
And, again we don't – actually we are not being allowed to give you the
answer, even if we wanted to. YOU are not allowing us to give you the answer,
oddly enough, because you want to be able to discover it from within.
What you are really asking for us to do is to help you to realize that there
is something at the deeper level, deeper than the human level. Your soul desire,
your passion, has set up the situations and the location, all of the events
that are happening in your life. But, it is wanting to be identified by you.
It is wanting the human aspect of yourself to identify the soul aspect.
So, we know we are not answering your question at all. But, in a sense, you
have asked us not to. You have asked us to help you to understand how to ask
the question. And, the question simply becomes, “What is my passion? What
is my soul desire? What does all of this mean?”
Once you discover that then it will change the course that you are on right
now. It will involve more deep and inner looking, but inner looking that is
done without force or without demand. It is done with grace and with ease. So,
we thank you for allowing us not to answer your question (some laughter).
SHAUMBRA 15: Thank you for not answering (much more laughter).
TOBIAS: So, with that, Shaumbra, we will bring our gathering to a close. But,
we will continue to be close to you, particularly between now and our next gathering.
As you take a look at this whole issue of moving from being the energy holders
to Energy Movers… letting go of that job that you have had for so very,
very long… letting go of that responsibility and that burden so you can
begin this new type of work… we ask you simply to take this next number
of weeks off where you are just taking it easy on yourself, not trying to figure
out yet how to be an Energy Mover. We will cover that on our next discussion,
but taking this time to gently release this role of being an energy holder,
understanding there are many others now who are ready to take that baton from
And so it is!
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe, aka "Cauldre,"
in Golden, Colorado. The story of Tobias, from the biblical Book of Tobit, can
be found on the Crimson Circle web site at www.crimsoncircle.com. The Tobias
Materials have been offered free of charge to lightworkers and Shaumbra around
the world since August 1999, the time when Tobias said humanity moved past the
potential of destruction and into the New Energy.
The Crimson Circle is a global network of human angels who are among the
first to transition into the New Energy. As they experience the joys and challenges
of the ascension status, they help other humans on their journeys through sharing,
caring and guiding. Over 50,000 visitors come to the Crimson Circle web site
each month to read the latest materials and discuss their own experiences.
The Crimson Circle meets monthly in the Denver, Colorado area where Tobias
presents the latest information through Geoffrey Hoppe. Tobias states that he
and the others of the celestial Crimson Council are actually channeling the
humans. According to Tobias, they are reading our energies and translating our
own information back to us so we can see it from the outside, while experiencing
it on the inside. The "Shoud" is the portion of the channeling where
Tobias steps aside and the energy of the humans is channeled directly by Geoffrey
Crimson Circle gatherings are open to the public. The Crimson Circle receives
its abundance through the open love and gifting of Shaumbra throughout the world.
The ultimate purpose of the Crimson Circle is to serve as human guides
and teachers to those walking the path of inner spiritual awakening. This is
not an evangelical mission. Rather, the inner light will guide people to your
doorstep for your compassion and care. You will know what to do and teach in
that moment, when the unique and precious human who is about to embark on the
journey of the Bridge of Swords comes to you.
If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are
indeed Shaumbra. You are a teacher and a human guide. Allow the seed of divinity
to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never
alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around
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