THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Quantum Leap Series:
SHOUD 5: "Triumphant Discovery" -
Featuring Tobias, channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson
January 5, 2008
And so it is, dear Shaumbra, no doubt about it! (laughter) We are here sharing
this precious moment and sharing our adventure off into new consciousness, into
the new dimensions.
The little game that we play with you, by agreement with you, was that we would
infuse you with feelings today, yesterday in particular, so that you could really
absolutely feel something. Many of you felt, with this kind of an opening of
the floodgates, just what is taking place in human consciousness right now.
Many of you felt the potential of things that could happen this year. Many of
you felt the anxieties and the pains of those who are very close to you. But
what we did was allow you to totally feel so you could then observe your reaction.
You could observe how your own doubt came in, almost denying the feelings trying
to keep them away. You doubted yourself. When you had this tremendous influx
of feeling/consciousness/energy come into you, you wondered what you had done
wrong. You wondered why you were feeling this way. And it wasn’t about
you. It wasn’t. You were feeling external things. You were feeling other
people or perhaps just feeling us.
When your doubt came in you noticed how it suffocates the feelings. Then it
goes in and confuses the mind. Then it takes away your sovereignty. It takes
away your intuition, your natural ability to feel things and to understand them
and to deal with them but not to own them. You had a wonderful experience in
Now, imagine for a moment what it would be like the next time this avalanche
of feelings comes into your life if you didn’t doubt, if you didn’t
wonder what you had done wrong. You didn’t wonder what was going on or
how you could escape from it. Instead of doubting, you used your pure intuition.
Your intuition would allow you to absolutely feel the depths of the experience,
of the energy, to feel into its many layers, to feel into all of the potentials
of why it was there and the potential of the outcomes without having to manipulate
it but just to feel it.
Imagine using intuition instead of doubt, how much richer your life –
not just as a human, but as a divine angelic being – how much richer it
can actually be. Remembering all of the time that it’s not yours. It’s
not yours. Oh, there is going to be times when you feel your own energy, but
your intuition will be discerning enough to let you know is it you or is it
We talked about it before and we set it as the reminder for 2008. So many of
the things that you take in and you feel and you doubt, are not yours. So many
of you have had very challenging experiences, feeling what it’s like to
go to the bottom, to lose so much, to have physical ailments and difficulties.
You’ve been doing this on the behalf of humanity and of the angels. You
love to take it on as your own, so much so that you allow these feelings and
awarenesses to put you in a very lonely space.
It’s a game. You’re taking this on for other people, other angels,
and you have to put yourself in a lonely space to make it really feel like it’s
yours, like you’re doing something with this consciousness. And then you
feel lonely as well. You feel nobody understands what you’re going through.
And the joke is, you’re going through it for them! You’re taking
on these things so you can attempt to find a way to bring resolution to the
energy for others. It’s time we stop that.
You’ve been doing it so long and you’ve become such experts at
it that it could be a little challenging to let it go. It could be a little
challenging to start living your life as your own instead of taking everybody
else’s consciousness on. It’s been so long that you have been in
service in the leagues of consciousness that you have forgotten what it’s
like to do it for you.
There are actually many overlays that you need to do this to be worthy to be
on Earth right now. You need to take on everything else for everybody else and
pretend it’s yours, because, of course, you are the expert. If you don’t
do it, who else is going to? But remember what Kuthumi said, “This is
the era of you – You,” and that applies to everyone else. It’s
time that they took on responsibility for themselves – for their energies,
their feelings, their doubts, if they have them – so that you can evolve
and elevate yourself to the next level. And of course, you already know what
that is – to be the Standard, the guide and the teacher of new consciousness.
To be the one to show others that there is a pathway and on that pathway are
all the tools. That there is the desire of God and human to meld.
So it’s up to you, Shaumbra, to be that guide, that Standard, that teacher
in the new consciousness. To show others that you have journeyed out into the
other realms, into dimensions that have no names or no definition yet, but you
have been there, and that when they go there, they will have a safe return as
The doubts that are such a part of the human consciousness right now –
the doubts suffocate feelings. When the feelings are not there you’re
really not living. When you doubt you’re not using your natural intuition.
The doubt is a game, and as we said at the close of our session before, it’s
time to end that game.
When in doubt, use intuition. When you feel trapped and stifled by doubt, stop
for a moment. Take a deep breath. Go for your intuition. “What should
you do right now?” Use your intuition and go for the experience. Remember
Kuthumi saying, “When in doubt, go for experience.” This all ties
This year is the year of truly feeling and experiencing. This year is the time,
dear Shaumbra, for you. And with that, we’d be delighted to take your
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (read from the internet by Linda): Tobias, on the
road to integration ascension, most of the aspects I felt coming back to me
were those of fear, pain, lack, et cetera. Two months ago a very different aspect
came to me, a magnificent grand voice, very centered and sovereign. It was then
very distinct, had a name and I heard that consciousness talk to me. It lasted
three weeks or so then kind of vanished. As I was breathing the voice in me,
I thought it blended with me in a way. Yesterday I felt it once again very distinct
from me but very close. Can you share with me please how you explain this dynamic.
TOBIAS: Indeed, it is that energy of Yo-ham, of yourself, of your divinity.
First of all, don’t doubt it! Allow yourself to experience it. Your intuition
is written all over that piece of paper. Your intuitive knowing what this essence
is. It’s not even – we don’t even want to define it as an
aspect. It is the simplicity of you. It is the God-self.
Now, as so many of you experienced, as you start to have these feelings –
and you don’t run from them, you actually embody them – your intuition
helps you to understand that it really is you. It is also important to understand
that you will go through an experience like this and you’ll seem to reach
a plateau that’ll seem to even off or you won’t have this overwhelming
sense, for a few reasons. Your body, mind, spirit are getting used to the sensation
so it’s not so dramatic anymore. But secondly, you are being asked to
raise or elevate your own consciousness now to meet this energy of yourself
in a new and purer place. You could say that your divinity dived down to your
humanity to meet it, but now it wants you to evolve upwards to meet it in a
new place that’s more compatible for the New Energy of the human divine
Indeed, take a deep breath and stop doubting this wonderful experience!
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Tobias, I have been choosing
to be in my I-consciousness more in trusting myself and I feel more success
with that. I’m also choosing to let go of things that are not mine, especially
poverty consciousness and the dependency that my mother and I have with each
other. So can you please talk to me about that, and very briefly, what’s
going on with my throat? Thank you.
TOBIAS: Indeed. You, again, have hit it very specifically. You’ve taken
on poverty consciousness for others. You could say this goes into a lot of past
life training where you were … you actually accepted that. You chose that,
you chose to get into this poverty energy and you can’t seem to shake
it. But on the other hand, you tend to right now measure your life or measure
your spiritual success based on financial success.
Stop for a moment. Look what you have learned in all these years that you’ve
been up asking us questions. Look at the depth and the richness of experience.
You’ve been hiding behind this thing about poverty and about making the
money, but look at what you really learned. That’s what the soul is interesting
in. The soul doesn’t care how much you have in the bank! Actually, you
get some really rich experience as you have found by having nothing in the bank.
Now, it’s time to end all of that. It’s time to end the doubts
and the dependencies and all of the rest of that. You already know the answer.
You come up to ask us for validation, but you know it’s time to let your
mother go. You have a lot of guilt surrounding this. You feel she’s going
to die when you let her go. You feel that there is ... you are the only one.
But truly a soul to soul energy shouldn’t be like that. It should be on
a very free and very open basis, not a dependent basis. You’ve allowed
yourself to become financially dependent, but really more than anything, emotionally
So a few things here. First of all, stop struggling in your mind with this.
You spend too much time in the mind energy. I absolutely want you to get into
breathing in the fullness of life. And not just pretending you’re breathing
it in and not just doing it a little bit, but really breathing it in. Open up
some of those channels within yourself, those channels where energy flows, open
them up and let yourself feel once again. Not just feeling poverty, but feeling
everything. And then I also, as you’re doing your very intense breathing
– you need to open some of those pathways – then call in the tools
that you have placed there for yourself.
I also want you to do one other thing. Acknowledge to yourself – and
you may need to sit with another and work with them because sometimes their
energy can be a good sounding board – but I want you to talk about the
games that you play. I want you to write a book about the intense games that
you play and other people do. You’re going to see how this is all intertwined.
You can see how there’s part of you that doesn’t want to give up
the game so you keep playing it. But once you get this out and acknowledge how
you are playing it, and you’re playing a mental game as well as an energy
game, you’re going to see that you can let that go.
Now it brings up some frightening things. You’re going to have to learn
to live again. You’re going to have to learn to live, not to survive or
to exist. And this goes against some very deep and ingrained training that you’ve
had in the past by some very, very intense groups – some break-offs of
some religious groups in the past – that you still hold onto. It is like
a spell that they have placed on you and you have accepted it within yourself,
then you can’t seem to shake that because it’s a wonderful game.
Do the intense breathing. Write down or talk to others about how you play the
game and then make a choice. Your choice right now, up to now, has been very,
very surface. And I know you think you’ve been sincere. You’ve only
just been in pain, that’s all. Choose to let go of the game. And more
than anything your biggest challenge at the end of the day, as they would say,
is the desire to live that goes beyond surviving, that goes beyond old rituals
and old concepts. But to … I have to ask you here in front of all of Shaumbra
– and you don’t have to answer right now – but are you really
ready to live?
SHAUMBRA 2: Yes, I am.
TOBIAS: You say that but ...
SHAUMBRA 2: I am.
TOBIAS: You say that but ...
SHAUMBRA 2: I am, I am! (laughter and Tobias chuckling)
TOBIAS: I want you to do a lot of breathing with that. You say that, but I’m
going to ask you ...
SHAUMBRA 2: I recognize there is a deep fear in there. I do recognize that
TOBIAS: So I’m going to ask you once again – and you’re welcome
to answer out loud – are you ready to really live?
SHAUMBRA 2: (louder) Yes!
TOBIAS: Ah, the perceptive Shaumbra will feel a large sense of hesitation in
there. You’re saying “yes” but the energy is like “perhaps,
maybe, kind of, probably.” There is doubt in it. So I want you to really
go within and address it, and if you’re willing we’ll come in and
kick your butt around a little bit too. (laughter)
SHAUMBRA 2: Alright, thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 2: Can you tell me just briefly about my throat?
TOBIAS: Indeed, restricted energy. There’s so much that needs to be said,
and that is why I mentioned it is time to talk about this game that you’re
playing and talk about the whole thing of why you are afraid to live. It is
right there ready to come out and therefore causing the soreness. Don’t
doubt yourself. Don’t worry about some big disease. It is energy restriction.
That’s all it is right now. You’re holding back.
SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (read from the internet by Linda): Was the Blessed
Virgin Mary really a virgin?
LINDA: Can I answer this? I want to answer this! (laughter) I want to answer
this! (Linda laughing)
SHAUMBRA 3: If not, why did religion need to make her a virgin? (laughter)
TOBIAS: Indeed, go and answer. We will just sit here and...
LINDA: (laughing) Go ahead.
TOBIAS: Well there is the energy of Marite, which is one thing, the actual
figure. And then there is the energy of the Blessed Virgin Mary, which is manufactured
by the church and accepted into the consciousness of those Catholics who aren’t
discerning. (lots of laughter) I am channeling you, my dear! (Tobias chuckling)
LINDA: I’m with you!
TOBIAS: So in a sense there is an energetic being that is the one that is worshipped
as the Blessed Virgin Mary. It never actually embodied on Earth but does exist
in the other realms, and she is so pure she wouldn’t even think about
having sex! (laughter) She is constantly worshipped on the other realms, constantly
prayed to, and she absolutely loves it because humans and even some of the angelic
realms have created that being, you know. They can do that.
But in the reality of the one who lived on Earth as a human, I have to say
… she loved sex. (laughter) And why shouldn’t she? It is a sacred
experience. It is about sharing at all levels, not just physical, but emotional
and even mental and every level, spiritual, with another human. It is the greatest
gift perhaps that humans gave themselves when they came to Earth. They knew
it would be tough duty down here, so they gave themselves sex to be able to
enjoy it more fully.
LINDA: Thank God ...
TOBIAS: So I think we all know the real answer, and it is fun being able to
talk about it here. But why should sex be shameful? It should be totally sacred
and totally enjoyed. It should never be used to steal energy from another person.
You should never use sex to disempower somebody else, and more so for Shaumbra
don’t let them use it to take away from you.
If you’re going to share sex with somebody – share your bodies
and every part of you – start with some breathing before ripping off your
clothes. (laughter) Even after you rip off your clothes, before you –
how do you say – engage, do a little bit more breathing. When you engage
with each other, a little bit more breathing. You will have the greatest orgasm
that you have ever had. So breathe that one in! (laughter) Thank you.
LINDA: The Virgin Mary liked that answer.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): Tobias, during this last
month, which has been a very emotional kind of month, I managed to lose my keys
and then a couple of weeks later I lost my credit card, and I’m wondering
if this is part of “on the way to ascension you lose everything”?
I’m kind of hoping that’s what it is.
TOBIAS: Actually, you haven’t lost a thing. They are still there and
you can actually call them back if you are ready. You can simply call them back
to you, and you’ll find them in some very strange and unusual places.
So let’s get over the concept that they are lost.
These are some of the barometers that we were talking about last month of your
own … let’s not say a severe imbalance, but just you were going
through some energy changes and pretty soon you begin to lose things. They literally
go off sometimes into another dimension, they’re not of the Earth anymore.
But when you call them back, they do reappear. So look at this as a wonderful
opportunity to take a look at perhaps saying, yes it is about losing things
that are going off somewhere else, but they do come back in a new and balanced
way. Don’t read too much into all this.
SHAUMBRA 4: Thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (read from the internet by Linda): As the three wise
men have said, “Let go of everything,” and I find that I certainly
am. Emotion fluctuates, imbalances – I now see the real possibility of
my home going into foreclosure. While on the market for some time, neither the
house nor my parcel of land have sold. I do want to move to a smaller home,
a different environment and eliminate paper and books and old stuff. Renting
also feels like a part of a freeing up to be more mobile. It’s all of
the fall-out, loss of investment, cash flow, credit issues, the general embarrassment
and the “why did I create this way” questions that haunt me. I know
that it’s a much larger process and I flip back and forth between feeling
“I am that I am” on one hand and this emotional rollercoaster on
the other. Staying out of the mental, the worrying and figuring options has
been the theme of this process. I know that when I’m fully in the moment,
truly present ...
LINDA: She goes on for a long time about this not good situation.
TOBIAS: Indeed. Here’s a wonderful example – a wonderful example,
LINDA: And this is a Shaumbra person who is truly committed to teaching.
TOBIAS: Indeed. Here is a wonderful example of taking on energies that really
aren’t your own but pretending that they are so you can help ... your
assumption is that you are helping other humans. So here we have on a –
actually it’s a global scale, but particularly in the United States –
you have a situation with a great imbalance in the housing market for a variety
of energetic or consciousness reasons. People are losing their homes and what
this really translates to in a lot of ways is they are shifting. They are losing
the old comfort level. They are actually going through a consciousness evolution
Now, here you are, a very wise and very experienced Shaumbra, but finding yourself
in the same situation. Why? Because you have compassion for those hundreds of
thousands who are losing their home right now. You dove – you jumped –
into that consciousness and said, “How can I help them? I’ll go
through the same experience. What is it like to lose my house, everything I
thought was me – my land, my money.” You have such tremendous empathy
you’re giving yourself that experience on behalf of them.
Now, the interesting thing is you’re going to find your way out of it.
You’re going to find out – even if you do lose your house –
you’re going to find out what it’s like to regain self-worth and
finances but in a new and a very efficient way. Your perception is that you’re
doing all of these people a grand service by going through the exact same energy,
and then by coming up with a solution, sharing that on more of a global consciousness
level, opening up new potentials.
The “you,” the limited human self, doesn’t look at it that
way. You think you made some mistakes. You think you perhaps took the wrong
job or made the wrong investment. You’re doubting yourself now. So that
doubt takes away from truly experiencing what it’s like to go through
this process. The doubt also takes away from the potentials of resolution that
you have for yourself that can also be shared with hundreds of thousands of
families who are going through the same process right now.
But at the end I have to ask, do you really need to go through all of that
now in this New Energy? Do you really need to dive in that same pool to understand
how deep and how cold the water is? Or is there a new part of you, a consciousness
part of you, that could actually experience this feeling and the problem and
the solution in a different dimensional level rather than having to have your
human self experience it here? Is there a way to have the compassion and the
feelings without having to go through the actual 3D physical experience of all
of this? So you would still have the compassion to help others and perhaps find
a more efficient solution, an easier solution that can be shared in a global
consciousness way as a potential with all these other humans.
Shaumbra, you don’t have to jump into the physical pool to know what
it feels like and to know how to bring resolution to energy imbalances. This
is what we started off saying earlier. You tend to take it on yourself and think
it’s about you, and it’s not. You are guides and teachers in the
New Energy, but we encourage you to find new ways to share potentials, to share
new consciousness with humanity instead of taking it directly on yourself. Thank
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Hello Tobias. It’s
been just about exactly four years ago that I came here to the Now Year celebration
and found home. It’s been an amazing journey … gone through all
sort of things ... found myself ... and as you know, I have a new job and I’m
off on a new adventure. I would like to know anything that you want to share
with me, want me to know, want me to remember as I take off.
TOBIAS: Yes, don’t forget to turn off the gas and the lights before you
leave. (some laughter and Tobias chuckling)
SHAUMBRA 6: Okay.
TOBIAS: Indeed. (pause) Yes, I do. You have taken on many of the energies of
Shaumbra, in particular, because of your past association with them –
Shaumbra all around the world – and taking on so many of their challenges
and their pains and their difficulties. And I think you found the hard way,
or sometimes the hard way, that they need to take it on themselves. They need
to resolve their own issues.
You finally got to a point, and we’ve talked about this quite often,
where I kept on saying, “But what are you going to do about you? When
are you going to take care of you? When are you going to trust you? When are
you going to stop ...” and I said these words to you, I’ll say them
again, “…when are you stop going to be the Shaumbra martyr? When
are you going to take care of your needs, your consciousness, your evolution?”
That would be a far grander beacon to all of the other Shaumbra than taking
on their difficulties and pains. You’re far grander than what you’ve
allowed yourself to go through, and you know that, although you doubt it.
It’s time now. You had to … you reached an impasse. You reached
a place where you had to let go of Shaumbra not so long ago, but yet, as you
know, you just felt such compassion to still be there with them, but now you’re
taking care of yourself. Let that be an example for all of Shaumbra –
how to take care of themselves. How to allow things like abundance and happiness
and joy into their life. Let that be the example rather than how you were doing
it before. The martyr energy is very old. Just ask Jesus. (some laughter)
SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you very much.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7 (read from the internet by Linda): I’m confused
about my relationship with my child who died 12 years ago. When I did DreamWalker
Birth Home Study, which was an absolutely amazing course, I felt she was getting
ready to incarnate again. I’m so excited she’s coming back and that
I’ll get to see her. Thank you for that info, Adamus. If it’s appropriate,
I’d like to know about the bond with her and I don’t want the love
I have for her to limit her in any way. Thank you.
TOBIAS: Indeed. This dear one is coming back. It would not be appropriate for
us to give an exact date or location, but it’s one of those things that
you’ll know it when you look into the eyes of this one. The love goes
back eons of time.
There are those that – this is for all of Shaumbra here – but there
are those that you first met and you first played with and you first loved when
you left the Wall of Fire. Remember when we talked that you left and you felt
very alone, but suddenly you started to realize there were other spirits around
you. And you started to develop … you would now call them friendships
or really the first love that many of you had. And these are some of the strongest
most beautiful ties. They go back through your spiritual family and even before.
So the one you’re referring to has that energy. Some of you confuse it
with what you call a soul mate or a twin flame, that it is a missing part of
yourself, but it is like – how to say – remember your earliest childhood
friends that you learned so much from each other because you were so young and
innocent? That’s what some of these beings are like and the one you referred
to is like that also. They almost can’t resist coming back and being with
you again. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias. Hi Shaumbra.
Hi Shaumbra. It’s nice to be up here and not be absolutely terrified!
So for those of you who are too terrified, just keep working on it. I have a
question that relates to the conversation today about feelings, but it is with
regard to parenting and children. I have three children. My house gets a little
hairy, because children are very highly feeling beings. And I’d like you
to talk about, if you would, maybe from your own perspective or the perspective
of Sam, what it is like to be a child and what they are feeling. What I have
found in my marriage recently – thank you, honey, my love – is that
understanding brings peace, and when you can understand there is no more angst
or fear or upset. And if you could help us to understand our children, what
they’re going through as feeling beings so we can help them stay connected
to their feelings to become intuitive knowing beings. Thank you.
TOBIAS: Indeed. Well said. And children these days – we are generalizing
here – but they are living in a state of constant contradiction. A contradiction
because they have their own feelings and their own intuition, but they are also
living in a very complex and mental world right now. So they feel that they
are walking between worlds constantly, and we’re not talking spirit world
and human world. We’re talking world of feeling, intuition and creativity
versus the feeling of the mental, the statistical and the structure. It is very,
very confusing for them.
They give up at a certain point, generally about the age 7 or 8, where they
feel that they’re going to have to give in to the energies of structure
and the mental. There is a resistance and almost a depression as they slowly
but surely give in to that and by the time they reach puberty, they have fully
accepted that this other world – what I would call “their”
world, the world of feelings – is going to have to go into hiding, and
that’s exactly what they do. They hide it. As they come out of puberty,
there’s a part of them that is angry that they did that. It’s rebellious
and it will take that rebellion out on the nearest parent or sibling or teacher
that it can. So you get a very angry, rebellious type of attitude that lasts
for anywhere from three to perhaps even ten years afterwards.
The interesting thing is to acknowledge that they are living in two worlds,
the world of … I guess what we would simply call the creative/feeling
versus the world of the mental and control or structure. They are very conflicted
by it, and they need somebody to listen to them more than anything. They don’t
need rhetoric. They don’t need a lot of talk. They don’t need rules.
They need somebody to listen to them. Even if it sounds contradictory and crazy,
just listen. Ask questions perhaps, but allow them to speak, because as they
do it gets their feelings more clear and it gets their reality more clear to
them so they aren’t going to feel as conflicted. They’ll understand
it is a duality world. So it’s very, very important right now to listen
to them. And, instead of giving them demands, give them choices. Always.
SHAUMBRA 8: One more brief question and a brief answer is all that’s
required, but I have a project that I’ve done on behalf of parents and
children and I’m hoping to launch it this year. It feels complete to me,
but can you take a quick look at it and let me know if there would be anything
else I should include, that would be most helpful. Thank you.
TOBIAS: Indeed. We would be happy to take an energetic look, and we feel that
those in the Crimson Circle, in the company, would be happy to take a human
look at it, and we’ll combine to give you an answer on it.
SHAUMBRA 8: Later?
SHAUMBRA 8: Okay.
TOBIAS: Yes, because it is not I, it is Cauldre and even a little bit of Linda
saying, “Oh Tobias, do you realize what you’re opening up here?”
for if one does it, many, many. But we would be happy to take a look.
SHAUMBRA 8: Okay, thank you.
LINDA: What he’s really trying to say I think is that we’re open
to doing a lot with education and children. That was covered a lot in the “Ask
Tobias” about education. And so there’s a window opening up for
that. So I think he’s trying to answer you saying that at some point we’re
going to reach a point very quickly where we’ll be able to be more open
to actually look at these projects and actually assist and work at creating
these things. Correct?
TOBIAS: Aren’t you the little channeler?! (laughter)
LINDA: Well, I’d say big! (giggling) Tobias, here’s a question
for you, this is the second to the last question of the day.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 9 (read from the internet by Linda): Hello everybody.
I live in a small country called Belgium, which was created by putting together
people from two main different cultures with different languages who are the
Dutch and French speaking communities. There is much tension between them on
the political level with some people wanting to split the country, and this
year it took six months after the elections to create a temporary government
because we couldn’t come to an agreement for a fully working government.
Could you give us an overview of the situation coming from a higher perspective
on this old conflict, its origin and potential or way out of it? Thank you for
TOBIAS: We see this as somewhat of an experiment in can you take two groups
that are very, very strong about their own backgrounds, about their own lineage
in history, and have them try to work out their differences? It is like an actual
cultural experiment in the making and sometimes it goes good and sometimes it
doesn’t go good. So if you want to ask our take on the energy in Belgium,
particularly this year, it’s going to be the ping-pong. It’s going
to be back and forth. It’s going to be wanting to split, wanting to join
And it is an energetically – it can be – an energetically draining
area for Shaumbra to live in. It can be very stimulating for other humans, but
for Shaumbra who are aware of feelings, it can be very, very difficult. Because
there is struggle, there is challenge, and right now if we have to say where
is that ping-pong ball, it’s on the side of the table that’s says
“Split and go back to your original cultures.” But very quickly
it can come back to the other side of the table saying, “Let’s try
to work this out together.” As we said, for Shaumbra in particular it’s
a very energetically draining area, so understand that if you’re going
to be living there. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 10 (a man at the microphone): Greetings Tobias. And
it’s not sunset yet, so good Shabbat as well. Just like to thank you and
Linda, you guys rock. You’re just really, really awesome. And my Australian
Shepherd, Marty, at the back of the room who’s been contributing energy
would like to thank you too.
LINDA: Coming from a real rocker, that’s a compliment.
SHAUMBRA 10: Totally! Well it kind of feels like I’m Van Halen’s
new bass player and I’m about to play in Madison Square Garden or something!
In either case, nine years ago I chose to have ... and I’ve been coming
here for a year and I’ve wanted to ask this, and almost not to ask the
question but to get a viewpoint. Nine years ago I chose to allow one of my heart
valves to break and I had open heart surgery. And during that time I had what
I could share as a near-death experience in which I experienced myself in a
lavender dimension of pure bliss as a ball of living light. And as I stretched
out with my feelings during this time – and it was about a five hour,
six hour operation – I experienced six to eight other beings similarly
surrounding me. And as I stretched out with my feelings, we started an interrogative
and it was telepathic. And at first I thought, “Wow, everything that I’ve
ever read is true!” And I don’t remember the interrogative, although
I did for about a month after, in my recuperation, but I do remember very distinctly
at the end of the experience I did not want to come back. And they said to me,
“You don’t have a choice. You have to come back, your work isn’t
finished.” And since then it’s been a real interesting ride. And
I’d just like to get your viewpoint from a broader perspective where was
I in this lavender dimension of pure bliss? As a ball of living light, is that
part of the true nature as a spiritual being outside of a physical body? And
generally, what’s your take on the whole thing? Thank you. (some laughter)
TOBIAS: Indeed. Isn’t it amazing what legal meds can do for you?! (audience
laughter and Tobias chuckling) We’re joking with you here for what you
experienced was very real. Now I’m going to ... you asked the question
so I’ll quantify it and qualify it. You asked where you were. You were
literally in your heart during this operation. I mean that’s where the
action was taking place. And you allowed yourself to go into your heart, not
just your physical heart but your feelings, your compassion, your … even
the colors surrounding it were all part of the experience.
You were joined there by angelic beings who you work with on a regular basis,
who come in at times like this particularly of surgery to help maintain a very,
very delicate balance of energy networks and energy connections. But you were
much more … in your altered state you were much more open to the discussions
with them. You meet them regularly, as all of you do, you work with the angelic
beings, but it is very difficult to remember those experiences. Because of the
intensity and to a degree because of the drugs that were involved in this, you
were able to remember more than you normally would on a given night, out venturing
into the other realms.
There is a grand difficulty in retaining the essence or the information and
bringing it back to this earthly dimension, for a variety of reasons. One is
because of the different operating systems between the two realms. One is very
much mental. It uses a language, defines words, where on the other realms …
there are no words that are used in the pure angelic realms. So it’s very
difficult to bring back what you would call a dream or an idea. It doesn’t
have a definition of words. It seems to dissolve when you try to bring it back
here. It still exists, however, but your mind doesn’t know how to comprehend
it. However, that being said, you are coming into an era where you can start
bringing that information into this realm and not having to define it in words
but to understand it in feelings, in general.
You actually did have a choice about whether to return or not. It is very,
very compelling to stay in these other realms, particularly if you have any
health issues, particularly if you have any major human crises taking place
in your life. It is very compelling to stay in these other realms. But yet you
and nearly all Shaumbra have basically planted an energetic re-grounding device
back here on Earth because you know it is so seductive … oh, that’s
not the right word, Cauldre … but compelling to stay in the other realms.
But you know you have given yourself the commitment to keep coming back here
to do your work from here.
You go through this almost every night – all of you, in your sleep state
– every night of wondering why you’re going to (Tobias chuckling)
drag yourself back to that carcass and go through it one more time! (laughter)
Some of you don’t. Some of you just choose to stay, but all of you remember
the love and the commitment and the compassion and you allow yourselves to come
back here. Nearly all of you feel like it would be such a waste of so many lifetimes
to leave now, because this is it. This is the time of new consciousness. This
is the era of You. So that helps to bring you back here.
Now, the real question here is, (a): “Are these experiences real?”
Absolutely. More real than this experience you call the human. The second question
is “How can you retain that sense? How can you remember what has happened?”
It is several things. It is making the choice. It is letting go of the doubt
– that is a big part of it, the mind will doubt the experience because
it’s not tangible – letting that go and allowing yourself to intuitively
remember the experience. Some of you are going to say, “But I don’t
remember anything, I just don’t have these type of experiences.”
I’m going to challenge every one of you who says that, this year, to let
Now, that’s a big challenge because feelings can be overwhelming. As
you know from our little experience before this Shoud, we gave you a blast of
feelings and you didn’t necessarily like it. You felt something was wrong,
something wasn’t … you had done something wrong. So you filter out
or lock out these experiences. But we’re challenging you in this new year
to allow feelings into your life, whether they are your own or whether they
are from the outside.
Let yourself feel once again. As you do, you will start remembering at least
having the feelings of these other dimensional experiences that you have all
the time. They are going to then start melding into your life, into your reality
here on Earth. Sometimes it’s going to feel uncomfortable because you’re
going to feel ungrounded, you’re going to feel disoriented, because you’re
melding together two very intense and very real energies.
You’re going to eventually be able to function where you can be doing
your normal everyday human thing and at the same time be experiencing and be
aware of the other dimensional experiences that you are having at the same time.
So in other words, instead of being in the lavender dimension with the angelic
beings in an altered state, you can actually be experiencing that and having
that happen while you stand in front of a group of Shaumbra in your physical
body right now. That’s where you’re all going.
But the challenge is to let feeling come in. Release the doubt, let the feeling
come in, then you will start to have these experiences on a regular basis. Thank
SHAUMBRA 10: Thank you. Just one more question with this.
SHAUMBRA 10: If I may, just one? Are these indeed my angelic family or are
they just aspects of me?
TOBIAS: The ones that you met during this experience were actually angelic
beings, not aspects of you, but those who we would call your correspondents
or angelic beings whom you work with on a regular basis that are there particularly
in times like this when there is a type of dramatic operation going on …
ones that you have known and loved quite often. Old friends.
SHAUMBRA 10: Thank you.
LINDA: One last quickie question.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 11 (a man at the microphone): Tobias, I chose to come
into this world after my father past away, exactly five months, and after 30
years I decided to deal with it. And I flew down to Peru and I had a complete
ceremony to make me see what had happened, why I had chose that and then I flew
back to the U.S. And I had felt a connection there so I decided to fly back
to Peru. And I sold everything and I moved down there without a doubt knowing
that I was going down there for some reason. And I ended up coming across this
book that was channeled over seven years. It’s called “Stairway
from the First and the Seventh Heaven,” and it’s in Spanish, it’s
in Portuguese, and my role in this is to translate it to English. And when I
was down there the woman who presented it to me actually introduced me to Crimson
Circle. So now that I’m back here and I have already been presented this,
you know, I’ve come to be passionate about the realization of my soul’s
purpose, how do I continue daily to move forward with this when there’s
objects and challenges in life?
TOBIAS: It goes back to the message from today. Don’t doubt. And remember
in the story – brilliant story! (laughter) – of Mark and Chris.
Mark set out and even when there were storms, even when there were times of
no wind, he never doubted. He understood that it was part of the experience
and it would give him the fullness. So often humans doubt, for instance, if
they run into a time of no money or they run into challenges from other people.
(pause) I’m trying to channel this through Cauldre … but –
it’s a bit confusing – but you were actually instrumental in the
writing or the creation of this book, using your energy in a very multidimensional
way in working with a group of others who helped bring this in. So as you read
the book there was tremendous familiarity because a part of it is your essence.
Part of your own commitment was to bring this information into other languages,
because there’s more than just the words that are on the paper. There
is an embedded type of energy that will be very, very attractive to a lot of
humans that explains some of what they would call the mysteries, which aren’t
mysteries at all, they’re just natural spiritual physics. So you’re
deeply connected with this book.
It’s time to let go of the doubt. It’s time to continue on with
what you’ve already chosen to do. If you take a look at the events that
you even talked about here and that have taken you from one place to the other,
from one group of people to the other, it is the journey of Mark. It is totally
for purpose, for reason and will allow you to have such a triumphant, triumphant
discovery this year.
LINDA: How coincidental that you’re answering a question from Mark.
TOBIAS: Indeed! (some laughter, Tobias chuckling) And Cauldre’s saying
for each additional question he will need one additional glass of wine tonight!
So ... (laughter)
LINDA: I have a final question I think that others would be interested in.
TOBIAS: There’s another one for him! (laughter)
LINDA: There we go! How is Sam doing?
TOBIAS: We’re going to talk about Sam soon. Sam is ... Sam sometimes
is – how to say –
LINDA: How was his Christmas?
TOBIAS: It was uneventful. Those damn parents, I’m going to have to ...
They don’t understand the joy of giving and ... It was quiet, but Sam
is actually going through some very big internal experiences. His outer ...
this is why in answer to the children before I could be so clear about it. His
outer world is telling him that there’s something wrong with him. His
inner world is telling him that everything is right.
Now, which does he believe? Which does he default to? So now he has the brilliant
counsel from not only Saint-Germain but from myself on an oversoul type of level.
But you have to understand he is also autonomous and independent, so he can
choose anything he wants. We’re trying to get him to understand, we’re
going through some very, very interesting work with him right now. Can you imagine
the personal attention from both Saint-Germain and I in his development, in
his inner world development right now?
So perhaps you could say the quiet over the holiday period was fine, but I
have to remind all of the parents out there. Gifts of underwear and socks –
do not do it. Do not do it! (laughter)
And so it is.
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe,
aka "Cauldre," in Golden, Colorado. The story of Tobias, from the
biblical Book of Tobit, can be found on the Crimson Circle web site at www.crimsoncircle.com.
The Tobias Materials have been offered free of charge since August 1999, the
time when Tobias said humanity moved past the potential of destruction and into
the New Energy.
The Crimson Circle is a global network of human angels who are among the
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of the ascension status, they help other humans on their journeys through sharing,
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The Crimson Circle meets monthly in the Denver, Colorado area where Tobias
presents the latest information through Geoffrey Hoppe. Tobias states that he
and the others of the celestial Crimson Council are actually channeling the
humans. According to Tobias, they are reading our energies and translating our
own information back to us so we can see it from the outside, while experiencing
it on the inside. The "Shoud" is the portion of the channeling where
Tobias steps aside and the energy of the humans is channeled directly by Geoffrey
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the inner light will guide people to your doorstep for your compassion and care.
You will know what to do and teach in that moment, when the unique and precious
human who is about to embark on the journey of the Bridge of Swords comes to
If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are
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to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never
alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around
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