THE TOBIAS CHANNELS
The Creator Series Lesson 4:
Questions and Answers
Presented at the Crimson Circle
November 11 , 2000
And so it is, dear friends, teachers, and shaumbra, as we return again to this
circle, to this energy, for this time of questions and answers.
We come here to work with you on becoming creators. It is about becoming and
realizing and manifesting your divinity. It is not so difficult, it is not so
difficult at all! It was difficult – nearly impossible – when duality
had a different balance, when duality had characteristics that were not so harmonious.
But as you come into balance with yourself, as you adjusted the balances of
duality within you, and as they are balanced in all humans across your earth,
it is becoming much easier to become true creators. Being able to create within
your being and from your being will not be so much of a struggle! It will be
as easy as allowing Grace to handle the balance. It will be as easy as bringing
this energy forth into your being, into your reality, into your divine moment
and then playing with the results. You will enjoying this, you will enjoy this
Now, there is one general question that we would like to address here on this
night before the specific questions. This was addressed several evenings ago
with another, and we bring it forth to this group at this time. This question
has to do with relationships, which we know are challenging for many of you.
And we bring forth an aspect for you to consider at this time, for you to apply
in your personal situation.
Nearly one year ago, on the date of December 13th, we spoke of the earth splitting
into two consciousnesses. We spoke of a new consciousness moving from the old
earth energy. And we spoke of you, Shaumbra, moving into the energy of the new
earth. That has been less than one year ago. We spoke that you would, for a
period of time, be walking between both worlds, old and new. You would see those
who were in the consciousness of the old, and to honor them and respect them
for what they did, for they continued to hold an important balance. We spoke
to you that those who remained in the old energy would not be able to understand
or discern that there was a new earth energy and a new consciousness. While
you may see both energies, they would only see their own.
As these two energies move further apart, as you are exploring the new earth
energy in greater detail, many have mates, spouses or partners who have chosen
to remain in the old earth energy. They have chosen to remain there to be a
balance for you, to hold an energy for you. For even as you are going off,once
again, into new areas that have yet to be defined, there is always a ‘tether’
to the old energy.
We used the analogy of the two mountain climbers. While one was secure and fastened
and had his grips into the side of the mountain, the other would then go forth
with a tether. One would be there for safety and balance and the other would
be the explorer. That is much of how relationships are coming to be now. You
may have a spouse or a partner who has remained in the old energy, to hold the
energy for you as you explore these new areas.
And in many cases, dear teachers, in many cases it is no longer appropriate
to be in that relationship on a daily basis. We are pointing out an energetic
dynamic that is taking place. Now it is up to you and up to your being to know
if it is time to remain or time to move forward. But if you choose to move forward,
if you choose to disengage that relationship on one level, understand that many
times they are holding the balance of energy for you on another. Honor them
and thank them for that. While you may dissolve the human ties of the relationship,
love them for what they are doing for you, allowing you to move into the new
Now with that, we will answer questions:
Question: Tobias, is there a relationship between the movement from the numbers
two to four in Kyron’s discussion of base 12 mathematics?
Tobias: Indeed there is, they work hand-in-hand together. As we have mentioned,
your mathematicians will soon bring forth information that would help to define
this in greater detail. It is not appropriate for us to move into the specific
areas at this time but we remind you that there will be more prevalence of the
number four in your life. It may appear as simply the number four, it may appear
as a combination of two’s. This is all indicating the shift away from duality,
as you have known it, into a new type of energy creation dealing with quads.
Question: Tobias, I understand through reading channels from Sananda that we
each have 16 parallel physical realities with many opposites to each other.
I’m interested to know that in each of these realities are we all the same,
i.e. in gender, and do we look the same in each reality as we do in this one?
Tobias: If this is what you choose, so be it.
(Note from Geoffrey Hoppe: As I was editing this session, I was a bit surprised
at Tobias’ short and somewhat terse answer to this question. I "checked
in" with Tobias to ask for further clarification. He chuckled, and asked
me to look at the answer to the following question. Apparently, he knew it was
Question: Are we in the process of merging all other realities into one reality
and one physical form as we ascend?
Tobias: This question is difficult to answer due to the human misconceptions
of realities and dimensions and ascending. We use this question in particular
to remind those who are shaumbra, those who are here, my friends, to live in
the divine moment. All of these multi-level, multi-dimensional, multi-aspect
realties… we do not know where you come up with these! There are many,
many mansions. There are many mansions, but my friends these things you should
not so much concern yourself with. They will indeed fragment you. They will
fragment your energy.
Now, there are those who are called on as teachers and healers to bring back
the fragmented parts that did not exist until you began to imagine them! We
ask you to focus on the divine moment, on your being in the divine moment. We
also – for Cauldre gets very nervous here – we have spoken that the
information given here will not please all. It will not resonate with all, and
it is not intended for all. It is indeed the classroom of the new energy, and
we will use occasions like this to bring our work together. We will assist in
bringing your work back into focus. For the period between now and our next
gathering the focus is to bring divine grace into your life. Why would you want
to worry about multi-dimensional aspects that even we do not understand or see!?
We honor and thank you for this question for it gives us the opportunity to
speak to your divinity, to your divinity that is present in this room, and in
the space you are reading this in now. You will not find the answers to your
questions in some complex realities that do not necessarily exist! You will
find the answers in your divine moment. Do you understand this?
Question: Tobias, I have cancer, how do I get rid of it?
Tobias: It is to honor the cancer, not to get rid of it. Place it in the Oven
of Grace. Place it there without agenda and allow grace to work through it.
Allow grace to find the balance. Cancer, dear friends, is simply imbalance manifested
in the cells of your body. It is that simple. Those who work with the new technologies
will see this soon. They will understand with the frequencies that they work
with how to adjust it.
You who ask us this question, you have a more sophisticated treatment available
to you today. You do not need to experiment, do not need to have trials. It
is available to you today. It is powerful. You are powerful. This imbalance
that knocks at your physical body, simply place it in there (the Oven of Grace).
And after you place it in there one day, then place it another and another,
and do this with love each day. My dear, there is a tool and a gift in this
for you. The gift is that you will one day sit before others who are in disbelief
and talk about how you brought balance into your own life. You have chosen this,
you have chosen this for yourself, so that you will be a teacher for others.
Use this Oven of Grace, my dear. You will understand.
Question: In the near future I will probably be losing my mother to cancer.
What is the most effective way to help her make the transition to your side
of the veil?
Tobias: It is to honor her for all she has brought into your life. When one
departs Earth and come back to our side of the veil, they often bring with them
guilt and tears of sadness. There is energy that they bring back over. It is
best to simply honor them. We are somewhat harsh here with you tonight, but
so many humans pray for one who has crossed over to the other side, praying
that they go to heaven, praying that there is no bad thing for them, like going
to hell, praying that they find the right space.
My dear, and all who are here, simply honor them and thank them for the process,
for being part of your life. You do not so much understand the energy that we
are in back here. We are often curious why you are praying for them to go to
someplace that even we do not understand or see. At times it can be confusing
to them because there is an energy that is placed around their being that is
trying to direct them to a place that does not necessarily exist!
Now, indeed there are legions of angels who guide those who are recently departed
safely back on the journey. But it would give those who have crossed over the
greatest joy if they looked back and saw another human honoring them. It would
begin to dissolve the veil so quickly when they look back and could see that
you understood the journey. Thank you for that very beautiful question.
Question: Speak of the power of prayer.
Tobias: You will learn in the new energy to create in a different way. Prayer
may be appropriate for those in the old energy. We will work with you to create
on new levels. We will be challenging you to release your old concepts of prayer;
we will even be challenging you to release your new concepts of intent. They
have been valuable tools for bringing you to this place, but my friends, it
is time to release these. We will go prayerless. You will create in the Divine
Moment. You will begin to understand when to use your Oven of Grace. And again,
thank you for that question.
Question: Will you please speak to us of the new children and their role in
the new energy of the earth.
Tobias: This is a very detailed and complex question for there are many, many
aspects to this question. We will talk of one group that is coming in now that
will favor many of those in shaumbra, in the Crimson Circle. These are the ones
who have not come to earth ever before. They have not had a series of incarnations
as you have. Metaphorically, they are building the pathways, and building the
tunnels for their energy to come in. These are angels who have not been to earth
It is difficult for them to transition from the first creation to what you would
call a holding zone or adjustment zone, and then going to physical bodies. This
is very difficult. So what they do is to create energy pathways into your energy
of earth. In other words, they move very close in without actually taking on
a physical body. And in some cases, the child is born but then will experience
a crib death as you call it, for they are not ready, these new angels, they
are not ready to yet accept the harshness of your physical reality.
They will come close to it. They will come back later, within months or a year
or so to be born into a physical body. Now these new angels, these new humans,
have had no previous experience on earth, but yet they have watched and studied
carefully. They are the ones who are helping to bring in a new type of energy
that will become important, for it is clean; it has not gone through the rigors
of many, many lifetimes. These are "fresh angels." These are ones
who bring in a new vibration level that is appropriate at this time.
They will be extraordinarily sensitive to your earth, they will be extraordinarily
sensitive to thoughts, and vibrations. They will have a tendency for allergies
because they will not find it so easy to be in this human form, but they will
have a light that shines within that is unmistakable.
Now, there are many other types of children coming in at the time, ones who
have been called the indigos, who have taken the indigo pathways to get here.
There are many, many others coming in that would require a long discussion.
But, to have you know, you who are shaumbra, you who have been here for many,
many, many lifetimes, these new angels, when they see you there will be an instant
connection, and they will honor you. They may literally drop to their knees
in thanks for you. They understand what you have done to enable a whole new
group to be able to come through now. After they come through the tunnels that
have been built into the new creation, then others will follow. (emotionally)
And one day, one day, I, Tobias, will return and I will hopefully be the son
of the one who channels this information.
Question: Tobias, I’ve been hearing a lot about the planetary teacher named
Maitreya. He is supposed to be the Christ and living in London. Any comments?
Tobias: This one carries a distinctive Christ energy. This one brings much wisdom
to your Earth at this time. While we are of the Crimson Circle and he is associated
with another spiritual group, there is great compatibility and great honor between
the two. The words that he brings forth at this time are filled with wisdom
and love, but we remind each of you that even as new teachers come to earth,
and even as you are teachers, it is always incumbent to remember that the Christ
is within each of you. You cannot find it in another, you can only see in another.
We deeply honor the teachings of this group and work closely with them, but
this group also teaches that the Christ is within you.
Question: The teachings within the life and the teachings of the Far East by
Spaulding are so similar to the teachings of the Crimson Circle. I’m wondering
if the Masters of the Crimson were teaching at that time, the late 1800’s?
Tobias: This Crimson Circle, this group of shaumbra, you have walked the earth
many, many times. The wisdoms that you have brought forth have come through
in a number of different cultures, but above all, there are certain basic truths
that hold within all groups. While the teachings of the Crimson Circle have
not directly affected these writings, they speak from the same level of truth.
And jokingly, our friend Cauldre would like to know where he can get this book.
Question: Tobias, if my issue is one of cellular weight, do I put my whole body
in the oven, or is there a symbol for this?
Tobias: The symbol simply would be a photograph of yourself, without judgement,
without agenda. Simply use that as a symbol, place that in the oven, and allow
grace to work throughout your entire being. We remind you, all of you here,
that while you do this, and even though Cauldre may have thought this was ‘corny’
(chuckling), you will begin to feel the manifestation of this.
If you place the symbol of your biology in this oven, dear friends, do not become
bewildered or surprised several days later when your body feels different. Initially
it may release things that may be somewhat embarrassing, but this is part of
the process. Initially there may be discomforts that you may wonder about, but
this is part of the process. It is amusing to us because we know, dear friends,
we know from working with you that you do not so much trust yet that this oven
works! You think perhaps it works for another but not for you. But then, when
you see the results, it may surprise or even startle you. (chuckling)
Question: Tobias, when I am asked a question about a future event, activity
or plan and I know the answer, do I wait to answer, or answer then and there?
And, how do I know I am in the new energy versus the fearful energy?
Tobias: It is difficult for anyone, whether human or those of the Crimson Council
or Tobias to know the answer to something in the future. There are directions
that can be seen. There is a knowingness of the general vibrations, of the general
frequencies you are creating into the future, but it is very difficult to know
the exact outcome. Based on our teachings with you in this Creator Series, it
is our advice to you to remain in the divine moment, remain in the divine moment.
As we mentioned in our previous channeling, in the old energy you created the future
by projecting your thoughts and your energy into it. This essentially took the
void and transformed it into a reality. Creation in the new energy will be quite
different. It will not be projecting into the void, it will not be projecting
into the future. It will be staying in a moment, in a space, in an energy, creating
in that moment, and emanating the energy out, not specifically to your future,
but into all moments. Now this is a whole other discussion and channeling that
we will get into here in the future (chuckling), so we will avoid getting too
far into it tonight. But our answer in general is simply to stay in the divine
Question: Dear Tobias, could you please give us a metaphor for appropriately
removing a problem from the Oven of Grace after the 24 hour period? Thank you.
Tobias: The Oven of Grace has but one button, and that is to start, and at the
end of 24 hours it will automatically quit. When you remove the symbol of your
situation from the Oven of Grace, dear friends, there is nothing that needs
to be done at this time, there is no prayer, there is no intent, there is nothing.
Simply allow now the changes to occur in your life. Simply allow the changes
to occur in your life. Now, there is a tendency here to want to make this a
very complex process. It is as simple as placing the challenge into the oven
and turning on the START button. One item at a time, one day at a time, only
for yourself at this time.
Question: Tobias, over the past month I have withdrawn more and more from the
people in my life. That’s OK, but I find myself engaging in constant negative
dialoging with those people in my mind. Lots of chatter, usually doesn’t
feel good after the fact. I’ve been balancing it on the hormonal imbalance,
but somehow that doesn’t seem to be true either. What’s going on?
Why can’t I seem to stay on the other side of the short wall?
Tobias: It will take conscious effort on your part to stay on the other side
of the short wall. You will continually find yourself pulled back into duality.
Right now you are experiencing here the energy of the Two Earths moving apart,
you are experiencing relationships moving apart that are no longer appropriate.
You are hearing chattering in your head, because you are still connected with
them in many ways. Know my friends, that as the energy of the new earth moves
to new levels, these old chains that connected you to the past will dissolve
in love. They will dissolve slowly and surely. You traumatize yourself by the
chatterings of your mind. Simply understand that is part of the releasing and
letting go process. When you have these discussions in your mind, simply stand
behind the short wall and honor these people, even though they have caused you
much friction and challenge in your life. Simply honor them. As you consciously
do this, the last vestiges of the old energy will dissolve.
Question: Tobias, two people spoke earlier today of a time of cataclysm when
Mother Earth will go through a time of purging and cleansing. What can we as
individuals and family do to ease our Mother’s pain and trauma to our fellow
Tobias: There are many vibrational changes that are taking place within you.
There are many, many activities, including the energy of the past lives that
were held by Gaia, that are now being released. As your vibration changes and
you release old energy, Gaia is processing many of these for you. You can honor
Gaia for this work, and you can understand that when Gaia rumbles – which
she will – when she rumbles it is not a sign of the end, it is not the
sign of punishment to humans.
Have you noticed in recent rumblings that very few, if any humans were killed?
Gaia understands where to release. There is much energy that she is choosing
to release now. Simply honor her for that. Dear friends, dear friends, she knows
well how to release, better than you do. Honor her for the process. And when
the winds come – and they will for that is the most efficient way for Gaia
to cleanse, through winds -– when they come simply smile and honor instead
of running in fear. Instead of telling others that the world is coming to an
end, honor those strong winds for they are Gaia’s best way of releasing.
Question: Tobias, what is the relationship between the election and consciousness?
Tobias: Quite simply, you are seeing duality come back into balance. You are
seeing it coming into a fine vibrational balance. This should be a signal to
all to understand that a new type of harmony is possible. There is also one
other thing that results from this: When two different frequencies change and
come back into harmony, all of the energy that is no longer appropriate is brought
to the surface to be released. In this process with your elections, any negative
energy, any energy that had an agenda working against the new balance of duality
will be brought to the surface. Those who perhaps cheated in the election results,
those who do not wish to have duality returned to harmony, these things will
be exposed in your media and it will be obvious to you. In the meantime, shaumbra,
stand behind the short wall. Oh, you will see some battling between the two
sides, but this is a new type of balance that is coming forth. Stand behind
the short wall to truly see what is happening here.
Question: Tobias, is there anything that you would like to relay to me at this
Tobias: Yes, indeed there is to you, to all who hear this, to all who read this
there is one thing. In this time you are creating the weavings of the new energy
earth, for that is why you are here, that is why you are reading this. Dear
friends, please keep it simple, please keep it simple. We will remind you of
this over and over again. There is the tendency to come up with great conspiracy
theories. There is the tendency to come up with realities and dimensions that
do not exist. There is a tendency to even come up with fear scenarios. My friends,
if you choose empowerment in your life, if you choose to be creators in the
new energy, it would be well to keep it simple. We have walked with you in these
past four lessons with very simple steps – and what Cauldre sometimes calls
‘corny’ steps (chuckling) – but we have done this to help you
maintain a focus. These are powerful tools. Your divinity desires to come forth,
and it needs your human Self to cooperate.
Question: Tobias, my kids are always asking for candy and junk food. Is it appropriate
for me to try to steer them away from that sort of eating, or does it really
matter? Does our consciousness hold more power over our health than what we
Tobias: Ultimately, the consciousness holds more power than the actual items
that are digested. Your systems are still trained in certain ways so it will
take a bit of time getting used to this. Without becoming too personal here,
in this particular case we ask you to look at what your children are truly asking
for. It is not about sweets; there is something else they are asking for through
this. This is simply a tool, it is simply a symbol that they are using. Stop
and look into their hearts. There is something else.
Question: Tobias, I have noticed that there have been some competition between
individuals and groups for superiority and greatness. Could you speak about
Tobias: We do not understand. Quite simply we do not understand; with this group
we do not choose to go into that energy. You are ones who have given yourselves
in service. You are ones who have gone through much to help others. We honor
your service, we do not choose to speak of anything else, for in your hearts
we see pure intent, we see pure love. Why would we want to discuss this duality
Question: Dear Tobias, I have two questions about music. First, in a prior Question
& Answer session, you alluded to the fact that you have music where you
are. Can you tell us anything about what it’s like and what it’s used
for and how it’s different from ours?
Second, in the classroom in the new spiritual energy on earth, are there any
new tools, intents, or powers that a creative, spiritually-minded musician should
know about that they could use with that?
Tobias: We will take the first question second. In the new energy as a creator,
and as one who understands the balances of vibrations of music, you have among
the most awesome opportunity for creation. Your music IS vibration. Allow yourself
to experience even more balanced and finer vibrations than ever before and then
flow these through your systems, and manifest them in your music. Oh, we see
awesome opportunities for you here! Your music will have qualities in it that
will transcend the vibrations that you have been working with up to now.
On our side of the veil, we do not usually call it music, and we do not have
those here who are proficient in violins and trombones and such (chuckling).
We play with vibrations that we create from within, and we will sit with other
entities, and we will create tonal or vibrational balances and harmonies. Sometimes
we specifically create imbalances for certain effects. We learned how to create
imbalances through the work you have done on Earth. As we have said to you before,
though, our music here, while beautiful, while entertaining and fun, does not
have the depth and the soul of the music that you create on earth. It is difficult
to describe this without actually playing our music for you. But in a way, you
hear our music when we come in at the beginnings of these circles. You hear
our vibration, and we are in a way, purring as we come into your space. The
next time we gather like this, when we first come in, feel those tones.
We deeply enjoy your music, for its vibrations literally tell the stories of
your lifetimes, of your experiences, of your pasts, of your loves. Oh, it is
not words that are stored in what you would call the Akashic records. It is
music, it is vibrations, for in those tones are the stories of Earth.
Question: Tobias, I have been having difficulty getting my mind and heart in
sync. Any suggestions?
Tobias: Release the mind. Indeed allow yourself to go out of your mind. There
has been an imbalance of energy in the approximate ration of 2/3 and 1/3 between
the mind and the heart of humans in the old energy. Bring those back into balance.
Simply allow that to be. Simply acknowledge the balance between the "two."
Dear friends, you are humans, you are walking in human biology, you are in duality,
and those things will continue for a period of time.
But now, allow the new balance. We have told you today on the 11/11, that it
is the day of duality on earth. It is the day of duality in the Mayan calendar.
It is the day when these energies can be brought back together in harmony, these
energies of duality, or where they clash. Look at your own life, look at Earth
on this day as you walk from here. What do you see? A new harmony or a clash?
We see the harmony, and with that, dear friends, we have enjoyed our time and
space together. We have enjoyed it immensely.
There are times when we would choose to stay here many, many hours. But we know
you grow restless, and indeed, we honor Cauldre for his service. We know that
he grows hungry! And with that we thank and honor and bless each of you. We
ask you to begin allowing grace in your life. And remember, dear friends, grace
comes from within you. It is already there! It is waiting for the opportunity
to work. The opportunity occurs when you open the door of the oven and hit the
Dear friends, we will see you for music (with Robert Coxon) in approximately
And so it is ...
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