THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Quantum Leap Series:
SHOUD 9: "Seduction Consciousness" -
Featuring Tobias, channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson
May 3, 2008
And so it is.
Shaumbra, we move into our time of questions and answers. I want to make a
point that this last Shoud, that but of course we all create together, literally
brought Dr. Freud to tears. The amazing insights that we are all developing,
your dedication to this work, your ... he started going to pieces when he saw
how you are taking this in your body, how you’re taking it in your mind,
this energy that’s really not yours – energy of seduction that’s
on Earth right now; or it could be other things, the consciousness of your family,
the consciousness of your community, of your enemies – brought him to
tears to see how you take it in.
You have been such a worker of spirituality, you have been carrying it on your
backs, but now it marks a time – what we call a point of separation –
where you’re going to allow yourself to feel, particularly at the high
intuitive levels, but no longer have to take it in the body, take it in your
mind and have it run you down.
We’re going to continue to explore consciousness and we’re going
to continue to feel it, because that’s why you’re here right now.
But it’s not yours and you don’t have to have it have such an impact
on these other parts of yourself.
To feel and to experience is the greatest gift of all. To let it go is the
greatest gift to yourself.
Questions, please, now about seduction.
LINDA: I have one sidetrack.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (Linda at the microphone): Now that you’re being
referred to as a short-timer and there’s a short amount of time for you
to deliver directly the special messages that you have, what is it that you
will hope to accomplish? What is it that you hope to share with us before that
TOBIAS: Well, you’re asking me to give my farewell address, and I do
have quite a bit of time left! My commitment to Shaumbra, to each one of you
who … I know you personally, whether it was Atlantis, whether it was the
pyramids, the time of Yeshua, or just a few years ago. We’ve all worked
together before. My commitment to you was to be your mirror from this side of
the veil, to be the voice of consciousness and the voice of realization. While
you were down there, or as we say “out in the cold down there,”
we’re sitting up here in our lofty, comfortable, warm cottages drinking
better wine than you have, (laughter) smoking the greatest cigars of all. We’ve
had the easy job. So my work, my commitment to you has been to walk beside you.
It is that simple. Thank you for asking.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): I’m Barbara, and
I was here last month.
TOBIAS: Hi Barbara. I’m Tobias. I’ve been here for a hundred months.
SHAUMBRA 2: Anyway, you asked me to come back this month, so now I’m
TOBIAS: Indeed. Indeed, so how was the month?
SHAUMBRA 2: It was very eventful. I received a lot of help from different areas,
both physical and nonphysical.
TOBIAS: And, Barbara, what word would you have for Shaumbra at this point?
SHAUMBRA 2: There’s a lot of help everywhere and we don’t have
to do it alone.
TOBIAS: Wonderful. Wonderful, beautiful statement. And how do you feel now
about living on the edge, about that rather seductive energy that pulled you
to testing the limits?
SHAUMBRA 2: Well that’s yesterday.
TOBIAS: Good. And why is there a difference between that energy to live on
the edge to see how close you could come without falling off, what’s the
difference between that and the consciousness that you have today?
SHAUMBRA 2: Well, from some of the help, and I’ve noticed it before,
I’m not fusing my soul and body enough. So now I’m consciously doing
that every day. So I’m not hovering above because of things that have
happened in this life or any lifetime, I suppose.
SHAUMBRA 2: So I’m fully in my body as much as possible, and I’m
also more fully accepting who I am.
TOBIAS: And not to put words in your mouth, but would it be fair to say that
you’re choosing life?
SHAUMBRA 2: Yes, hmm...
TOBIAS: Hmm! (chuckling) And sometimes these things take a while to unfold,
but when you really choose life and you understand that so many of the issues
are not really yours – we talked about seduction today – it’s
coming from somewhere else. But when you’re choosing life, you realize
that you don’t have to test life. You don’t have to test the limits
in order to feel alive, because it flows right in. It’s not boring, it’s
not just neutral, it is fulfilling in a way that you can’t even experience
by living on that edge.
SHAUMBRA 2: I wasn’t living in, I was looking in.
TOBIAS: Absolutely, and as part of that, it was a constantly feeling that you
had to remember that you were alive by testing limits and edges and wondering
if you’re still here by putting your toe into the –how to say –
the darkness or the extreme. It did remind you that you are alive, but when
you say that you are now fully present, you’re here, you don’t have
to remind yourself of that.
SHAUMBRA 2: No. No. No, now it’s an adventure worth living and enjoying
TOBIAS: Yes. And that is not to say that there are not going to be factors
that try to draw you back out of that. It unfolds over what you would call time
– but actually experience – and it is about truly allowing yourself
to be in the body. But there are going to be times when you’re going to
feel pulled out, when extreme situations come from the outside. But remember
what we all discussed today. It’s a seduction. It’s not yours.
SHAUMBRA 2: I’ll have to be vigilant.
TOBIAS: Or keep breathing!
SHAUMBRA 2: Yeah that would help. Thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you so much for sharing with Shaumbra. (audience applause)
LINDA: I told her that was really nice she came back.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (read from the Internet by Linda): In last month’s
Shoud, Tobias mentioned drinking pure water to help with the cleansing process.
He also said that this is water that hasn’t been distilled and is spring
water or rain water. He also said that it shouldn’t be artificially induced.
Does bottled spring water qualify? And what about this charged alkaline water
that’s processed through a $5,000 machine from Japan that’s supposed
to cure everything? What’s our best, most expensive, source of pure water?
TOBIAS: (laughter and Tobias chuckling) Saint-Germain was offering his comments,
which I will not repeat here in front of the group. (more laughter) Shaumbra,
what we’re trying to clarify here is just “natural.” Now don’t
get into all caught up about how natural is natural or what process makes it
more natural. We’re trying to say that in the water that comes from Earth
– and into the deeper levels of Earth, of course, because it is more filtered
– or, as we said, rain water. But don’t get in all caught up into
how many particulates of some type of chemical and other things are in it.
Our point was simple. The pure water, if possible. Any water, good, but pure,
if possible. We’ll tell you right now that there is not a machine on the
face of this planet or in the alien planets (laughter) or anywhere else that
has the ability to purify water and heal everything – beside your own
physical body. That is the $5,000 machine. It is your own body.
Now, we’re not suggesting here that you drink the water and then go off
and sell it after it is discharged from your body (laughter) as having gone
through the most sacred purifying processing system, although there are those
that are gullible enough to buy it! (laughter) So... That is what Saint-Germain
was literally saying. He said piss in a bottle and then sell it if you want!
(peals of laughter) But I didn’t want to say that. (much laughter, someone
in audience says “Eeew!”)
LINDA: Nice. Nice. Really nice. This is a family show!
TOBIAS: (laughing) My family pisses, I don’t know about yours. (much
LINDA: (laughing) Really nice.
TOBIAS: It’s nothing to be ashamed of! But Saint-Germain was jokingly
saying there is probably somebody gullible enough to buy it.
Any of these artificially induced things that we hear about are just distractions.
And for some people they are wonderful, but we’re trying to get away from
the distractions with Shaumbra. You are the temple. You are it, and
when you come to realize that, you know what happens? Your body starts responding
that way again with its natural abilities. Your mind is a wonderful tool, but
it’s not being used in the right way. When you say “I Am that I
Am and I don’t need to buy a $5,000 machine from anywhere,” your
body naturally responds and says, “Yes I Am.” Your body is an aspect
of you. It’s part of you and it wants to serve you. Every energy wants
to serve you, but when you become so distracted, it can’t.
LINDA: Nice, thank you.
TOBIAS: Thank you. (chuckling) I already see some of the Shaumbra artists sketching
the labels for their special… ahem… water. (much laughter)
LINDA: Piss on Earth? (laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): Dear Tobias, about seven
years ago I asked you a question when Linda was reading all the questions, and
your answer was that I knew the answer. I was sitting in the audience at the
time. I still don’t know the answer. I thought maybe you could answer
it now. (much laughter from audience and Tobias) Well, it’s important!
Now, here’s the thing. My girlfriend and I saw this man in front of our
faces and – long story – but he went poof! He dematerialized. It
was strange. (Someone in the audience asks “Was is Saint-Germain?”
Shaumbra 4 responds, “Could be.”) He had amazing eyes, it was an
amazing thing. I have this question, what was that about? And number two, your
answer to me was that it was a hologram, a very good hologram. And so my question
is who sends these holograms? You know what I’m saying?
TOBIAS: Now, who did I say had the answer?
SHAUMBRA 4: You said I did.
TOBIAS: Who would send the hologram?
SHAUMBRA 4: Oh, well wasn’t I clever.
TOBIAS: (laughing) Seven years does not qualify you for clever! (lots of laughter).
SHAUMBRA 4: Okay, I have a question. Why would I send me that hologram?
TOBIAS: Well, many, many reasons. It is being done continually, this was just
one time when you realized it. You are continually sending yourself guidance
and what you would call assistance from the other realms, so it was just manifesting
in what appeared to be physical form, because that’s what your senses
can best perceive it at. So you send yourself this hologram. It was one of assurance
saying, “Everything is fine. You’re in a good state.” It was
one of self-love. It was also, if you remember your creation hologram, it was
very deep wisdom trying to remind you of that part of yourself that’s
not so … dingy (Shaumbra 4 laughs) … or unbalanced or any of that,
but the part of you that is so extremely wise. Let us just say it was –
we know we’re big on this right now – but it was an aspect of you
that literally is created by you in the other realms and here you gave yourself
a little opening in the door to allow yourself to see it, and then – poof
– it goes away. You are incredibly creative and incredibly wise.
SHAUMBRA 4: Hmm.
SHAUMBRA 4: Thank you. (Someone in audience says, “and not so dingy.”)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (read from the Internet by Linda): We’ve heard
that Gaia has left and it’s now shifted to the Goddess Vespa, the goddess
of light. What is your comment on that? Thank you.
TOBIAS: Do you want to hear a bunch of angels laughing their ass off?! (laughter)
LINDA: Are you having a good time today?
TOBIAS: Well, we have Kuthumi here and we have Saint-Germain and Kwan Yin,
and they’re rolling on the floor. We’ll go on to the next question
if you can’t figure the answer out. If you can’t hear their laughter,
I will answer it.
Gaia is slowly leaving in a very balanced way. It’s not going to happen
overnight. The only ones that are going to take over the responsibility of Earth
are the humans that live upon the Earth. Their spirit will go into
the ground, into the air, into the consciousness. No Vespa, no anything else
other than human consciousness. If humans do not take responsibility for the
planet in the dimension that they live in, then it will simply just go away.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias. For the last
few months, I have had a lot of trouble making decisions. I make them –
I make choices a lot about when I’m going to retire and if I’m going
to stay in the house I’m in or buy a different house – and the next
day, the next week, it’s like, “Well no, that wasn’t the right
choice.” I change my mind. I make another definite choice, and it keeps
going around and around and around. And I talked to people today who are going
through the same thing. Why can’t I make a decision and make it stick?
TOBIAS: Indeed. Excellent question and one that Dr. Freud is going to move
in a little bit with here. He’s learning a new type of psychology here,
and he’s not going to blame it on your mother. (laughter from audience
Interesting phenomena. All Shaumbra are in a change energy. Your essence knows
that there is constant state of flux. Your human self doesn’t really understand
that yet. It’s uncomfortable with tremendous change taking place. You’re
allowing yourself to practice conscious choice at the human mental level, and
it’s wonderful because at least it’s showing you the flexibility
that you have, showing you that you can indeed make choices. But it’s
also showing you that you don’t have to get locked into anything. You’re
not living on a linear path anymore.
You made a very interesting choice, for instance, about retirement, but you
look at retirement as something that happens at a certain point in time and
in a very linear calendar time. You change your mind, and it’s actually
not your mind, but you change your perspective later because a part of you realizes
that, in a sense, that was so yesterday, very old. And now with all of the rapid
changes you realize that maybe there’s something else you want to do.
You’re giving yourself the wisdom of the freedom of choice and change,
which is very, very important. You’re taking off all the old restrictions.
But it’s also now at a different level forcing … not forcing, but
encouraging you to make choices of what you would call the heart or
the spirit rather than choices of the mind and just the human. There’s
a tendency to focus first on choices that are very tangible and very much applied
to the comfort of the human – choices about abundance or choices about
health and very, very three-dimensional things. But then as you play with choices,
you move up a level and then you start making choices of consciousness and spirit.
At that point you realize you no longer really have to make choices of the human
nature – the feeding, clothing and maintenance and protection of your
human self – because those become quite incidental. The choices you make
on a higher level will automatically take care of what we call the lower level
All of this is trying to boost you up or move you up to very broad consciousness
choices now. You’re actually on the right path, so to speak.
SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you.
TOBIAS: Yes. So don’t get caught in your mind about your mind making
changes. It’s actually a beautiful thing.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7 (read from the Internet by Linda): A group of Shaumbra
that lives in Venezuela is observing and feeling very rough energies here in
Venezuela. Is there anything more that you would like to tell us so that we
can cope better with this situation? Is there anything more we can do? Much
love from the Shaumbra group in Venezuela.
TOBIAS: Indeed. You are living in a challenging consciousness right now that
has been a part of the culture for a very, very long time, and what is happening
with Shaumbra there is you are allowing yourself to waken up and to feel again.
You’re feeling all of this duality and all of this tension around you.
The tension has some of its core values in the whole thing of the freedom of
the spirit, the freedom of the individual, and it’s coming to a head.
It also, obviously as you know, literally, metaphorically involves the energy
situation. Venezuela has an abundance of energy but it is not being distributed
in an appropriate fashion with those who are living there. So you have all the
turmoil of political chaos, consciousness chaos and multiplied with this whole
seduction energy on Earth right now, and you’re feeling it.
Remember, it’s not yours. Remember not to embody it in your physical
self or your mental self. Allow yourself to absolutely feel it. You’re
on a – how to say – in an amazing opportunity here right now for
extreme feeling, but don’t own it. You’re there in Venezuela right
now to help those who want to move into higher consciousness, and you’re
not doing it necessarily when they are just in front of you in person. You’re
doing it on a nonphysical level as well.
Our big suggestion to you, and to Shaumbra all around the world, is don’t
take it personal. It’s not yours. What you’re feeling in your
body and your mind is only because your senses are waking up. Feel it. Don’t
own it. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8 (a woman at the microphone): Hello. I wanted to ask
for input, any feedback, tips, advice for my new shop in Breckenridge and thank
Kuthumi for playing with me and the muggles that come in!
TOBIAS: Indeed. Several suggestions – and we’re double-checking
with Cauldre and Linda, of course – what a wonderful thing to have a Shaumbra
gathering there. We understand we will all be there very soon.
LINDA: I already brought that up. You’re so smart! (Tobias chuckles)
TOBIAS: And we would love to do a channel there and we would love to have Shaumbra.
That, in itself, will create some wonderful, beautiful energies that will stay
in the shop and attract people from off the street and bring them in not really
knowing why they were there – if you allow this to be, of course. But
it will infuse New Energy. You’ve already been doing that, but can you
imagine a whole group of Shaumbra coming down? If you supply the wine! (laughter)
SHAUMBRA 8: Any suggestions on merchandise? Different things? More Shaumbra
TOBIAS: We want you to feel that merchandise. Don’t get into the head
about some of things you’ve learned in the past and what you think you
have to have. But, matter of fact – we’re trying to think of a way
to keep this short – but Shaumbra, for those of you who have products
or in this case a store or different things, you have to basically throw out
all of the old rules of product turnover and inventory and product mix and all
the rest of those things. They don’t apply so well in a New Energy type
of setting. So be very – here’s a good word for it – be very
daring and bold in some of the inventory that your bring in – the merchandise
– and don’t get stuck in old inventory concepts. Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 9 (read from the Internet by Linda): Two questions.
Please give me some insight on the pain in my neck. (Linda says, “that’s
not me,” and she and Tobias laugh).
TOBIAS: Linda, you shouldn’t be asking your own questions! (more laughter)
LINDA: (still laughing) Want me to read the real question?
SHAUMBRA 9: (Linda continues) Please give me some insights on the pain in my
neck, shoulder, low back and continuous inability to sleep. Am I overdoing the
Standard Technology or have I been using it for too long since July of ’06?
TOBIAS: Right now, as all of you wake up, as we talked today, you’re
going to feel like never before. You’ve been trying to run from it, but
you can’t. You don’t want to. You want to be able to feel everything.
You want to feel right now there’s some activity in the core of the Earth
that hasn’t ever been there before. It’s in – how to say –
it’s not just seismic or that, but there are vibrational activities in
the core of the Earth and your body feels it. The blessing is that you can feel
Don’t keep it in the body. As we move to the next level of being
able to feel, you won’t have to use crude systems like the biology or
the mind. We’re going to get into some of the very higher end systems
– very sophisticated – so you’re body no longer has to have
the shoulder and the back pains, and the jaw and the dental pains and the all
rest of the stuff.
SHAUMBRA 9: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 10 (a man at the microphone): Hey, how’s it going,
Tobias. It’s been a while since I’ve been up here, suddenly I’ve
become nervous. I want to express my gratitude for all the work we do together,
and thank you for working with all of us. It just brings me a lot of joy to
be up here and to do all this stuff.
TOBIAS: Thank you. Good to see you again, up front.
SHAUMBRA 10: Yeah, it’s been a while. So I have a question that I asked
a long time ago about geometrical patterns, and I quit working with them. I
got really, really stuck so I just let it go. And recently, I had like a synchronistic
moment where maybe I should work with these. Maybe it would be a source of abundance
or whatever, or freedom or whatever. And basically you said to make the basis
of my work the five-pointed star, and I was aware of some variations of that
work, but you talked about taking the arcs and then interlacing them with the
points and the lines and the circles. And then I have that with the 12 interlocking
stars – I’m getting a little complicated here, but – and then
that part was pretty easy for me, and it created some really beautiful and new
ideas, using the arcs and circles – something new and different, which
a lot of people don’t work with.
But then you said something about seven points on each arc and I’m thinking
there’s lines going from those seven points to other corresponding stars,
all like flowing together parallel, and then just repeating that pattern and
then, you know, that... Or my other thought is that the lines go in all different
directions, in which case I’m pretty screwed in that… (Tobias laughs)
So basically, could you talk about that – the points on the arcs, the
spacing of the arcs, and how that works and variations of that star geometry,
and if there’s more beyond the five-pointed star geometry work.
TOBIAS: We know this could – how to say – we could get into some
very long discussions and actually Saint-Germain would love to have much more
– how to say – deeper discussions with you about that. So right
now for the sake of this question and answer, we’ll reserve that for later.
For right now though, for you personally, what I hear you really asking is about
the direction of your work.
You took a break for quite a while from this. You got burned out mentally.
You were trying to figure it out on too many different levels but running through
the mental. You have a very astute knowledge of sacred geometry and Feng Shui
shapes and energy movements. And now after taking your hiatus for a while, we’re
going to suggest you get back into it, but not going back to what you were doing
before, but into a new expression of energy movement and of the shapes and the
forms that it takes.
We’re going to suggest you don’t necessarily get back into the
work with the copper that you were doing before. It was actually limiting you
and causing some other problems. Getting into other media at this point and
that we’re not going to tell you specifically what, we want you to play
with it. We will tell you, though, a hint: get away from the metals for a while.
Allow your natural expression and creativity to come through. You already have
the basis of understanding for the geometry and for the – what you call
– the rational portion of it, but now bring in the creative portion to
play with it. That’s what was missing before. You were becoming far too
rational about it. When you allow the creative nature to play with that, you’re
going to find that your own sense of self-fulfillment – self-worth –
rises very, very quickly. Instead of getting frustrated wrapping copper, you’re
now going to be expressing in a whole different way.
You’re also going to find that the true creative expression that’s
done in a very open and free way is going to appeal to other people as well.
They are going to be drawn into your creations as they were not drawn, for the
most part, into your other works, because this is going to be a full expression
of you rather than you trying to figure out too many mental things. And they
could feel it in your work.
You are an artist by nature, although you don’t think so, and you highly
understand energy movement. Watch how these work together. And don’t give
me any excuses now why you can’t do it, whether it’s money or time
or talent, because that was the old you. That was the old expression. The new
expression lets their energy surge forward, lets it just blossom and expand
and open up. So your homework is to go out and work with these. We’ll
bring in some information from Saint-Germain at another time, but we’d
like to see you back up here in no more than six months to talk about free expression.
SHAUMBRA 10: Thank you very much.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 11 (read from the Internet by Linda): Over three years
ago I chose to create a relationship that would be the grandest love of my life.
A year later I did meet a wonderful man and we have lived together for over
a year. It has not turned out to be, at least in my consciousness awareness,
what I chose. I felt at the time that I consciously chose this on every level
and from every aspect of my composition as one with my soul. Where did I fail?
I’m hurting. Thank you.
TOBIAS: Indeed, you failed by considering it a failure! It was an experience.
You created something, you experienced it and now you move on. This harsh judgment
about relationships – again, very old energy – that you would have
to stay with somebody for a long length of time. Shaumbra, I would encourage
any of you, it is better to have the most intense loving relationship that lasts
one night versus a miserable relationship that lasts 10 years or 20 or how ever
many. Don’t place value judgments on it like that. You tried, you experienced
and then you moved on. So let go of the whole failure thing.
Also the problem is – on another note – relationships are difficult
for all Shaumbra right now, because you are, to use a measurement, you’re
at a 3,000 consciousness level. Most humans are at about 2,000. It is going
to be very difficult to maintain a long term relationship, because there is
a basic major difference in consciousness, unless they are so loving and so
compassionate, but then their consciousness would be up with yours! So, seize
the day … or the night. (laughter)
LINDA: (laughing) Nice. Nice.
TOBIAS: And Cauldre is adding here, these are not necessarily the thoughts,
belief or words of Cauldre. (laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 12 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias, thank you.
This is my first time here, so thank you. It’s important for me to be
able to share with you where I am. I feel like that I have passed through, using
the expression, the Valley of Death, and had my guide with me going through
severely deep initiations. And I see myself at the end of this and I see these
two steps with these huge gold doors opening and calling my ancient soul family
angelic realm that stands there. It’s kind of like I have my one foot
up those steps and the other foot back into what you called that seduction consciousness.
It also feels like that place is in the house that I’m in now which it
feels like it’s time to sell. What also makes me sad – if I could
do this without crying – is that I’ve had to release my dog. She’s
still alive, but she’s living in Utah right now and that grieves me. So
I’m asking you for assistance and to be able to go through those doors
knowing I deserve it without that back door saying, “Come back, come back,
come back.” So can you assist me with that please?
TOBIAS: Indeed! We’re going to say, first of all, do not step through
those doors unless you want it to be the last breath you have on this Earth.
The doors are a representation of the Bridge of Flowers, of your angelic family
back home, and it is very attractive because they are ones who love you dearly.
You all come from an angelic family and they are back, wherever you want to
say, in a different dimension. They are waiting for you. They are waiting to
see what happens with you as the one who came to Earth and has taken on many
lifetimes and has learned to deal with yourself as a creator. So they’re
all back behind the doors wanting to know how it turns out for you. When will
you discover that you are the creator? When will you discover there is no grander
being than you? When will you discover that you are sovereign?
Now, they are willing to accept you back in the purest, deepest love at any
point, but what you are seeing symbolically here is the release of the physical
body from the Earth and going back to what is often referred to as Home or the
spiritual family. There are two doors in the scenario because it is about choices,
and the choices are about staying on Earth right now. That is literally what
everything is happening in your life. Even the loss of your dog and the loss
of other things that you’re not mentioning out loud here right now have
to do with you possibly clearing the way to leave, not sure which choice you’re
going to make.
All of these things come into play into the picture right now to say what do
you want to do? Do you want to continue staying here? Do you want to go back
to the other realms? Quite frankly it is wonderful back here. Or do you want
to continue the work that you started a long time ago while staying on Earth.
While you’re in this process of making those decisions, things get cleared
out of your life. They leave. They go away. They fall away and what remains
standing is you – the divine human, confused at times, lost at times,
filled with love and excitement at times – but what remains is you. It
can feel lonely, desolate and even confusing.
When you’re standing alone, at least the perception of being alone like
what you are now, the seduction energy can then be very strong. It can be calling
you to other places. It can be telling you to come here or to come there. When
you’re standing alone like this is the greatest opportunity a soul will
ever have for discovering itself, but also one of the most difficult opportunities.
As you come through this process, you’re going to realize something very
beautiful. You’re going to realize who you are. You’re going to
realize what you truly have. You’re also going to realize during most
of this process, during most of this coming into yourself, that you were not
alone. You were surrounded by those of us on this level and your spiritual family
and your human level. There was a short time where you are alone. That goes
for all of Shaumbra, but very, very short. The rest of the time you are never
alone. I know I went far beyond where you were going with this but it was important.
SHAUMBRA 12: You did not. Are there any suggestions or tools or meditations
you can suggest?
TOBIAS: No meditation. No tools, no prayer, no nothing. These are often used
as a distraction, and we’re not saying that they are bad or negative,
but we are inviting Shaumbra right now to breathe and to choose life and to
feel. And by doing so and not getting distracted in any other tools or disciplines,
it’s about really living on Earth for the first time in a long
time in a full, pure and true way. It’s about accepting yourself, every
part of yourself, in the fullest way. And this is the greatest challenge an
angel will ever, ever, ever face.
SHAUMBRA 12: Thank you very much.
LINDA: Okay, we’re way past the time that Cauldre and I agreed to, but
I’d like two more questions if you could be very brief and succinct.
LINDA: I knew it! (Tobias chuckling) Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 13 (a man at the microphone): I should have been the
one before me because me being brief and succinct is an issue or a challenge,
but I’ll make it quick.
LINDA: I’ll grab that mike!
SHAUMBRA 13: Grab that mike, I’m going to stand over here! I feel good
about myself, and I don’t always feel that way, and I’m starting
to really feel this and understand, and I’d just like to acknowledge that
instead of coming up here and crying.
TOBIAS: Crying is good too.
SHAUMBRA 13: I do want to cry sometimes but ...
TOBIAS: Saint-Germain can make you cry. (laughter)
SHAUMBRA 13: Yes, I’m sure he could. Surrendering to my aspects right
now – I’m having an issue or challenge of being seduced back into
the work world, specifically school construction/building inspector versus artistic
world or what I’ve wanted to do. And it’s always because of money
and credit card, and it’s back and forth for years now. I know this question’s
been asked before but specific aspects of myself that are pulling me back into
the old world?
TOBIAS: Let’s ... looking at the energy here, and again Dr. Freud is
coming very close to you right now, if you don’t mind him energetically
sniffing … (laughter from audience and Tobias) Here we have a situation
– let’s not blame it on the aspects, but let’s take a look
at the doubt. Obviously, aspects carrying doubt, but there is part of you that
doubts whether you can do this, so that in itself will draw you back to what
you didn’t doubt, what you knew you could do well. That is a
very internal seduction that’s going on here. And we’ll put it very,
very undelicately, but it’s a matter of making that choice so deeply that
you say, you know, it is more important to you than even life or death –
it is what you choose – and you’re going to get off of this
sitting on the fence with your doubt and should you and shouldn’t you
We have to say that the money – so much energy is focused on money, we’re
going to be talking about this again pretty soon – the money is a bad
excuse for not being who you are. And if you really cared about the art, you’d
live in a cardboard box and wash yourself at the city park, because it... (laughter
from Tobias and audience; Linda, laughing, repeatedly says, “nice.”)
But then you would learn to believe in yourself and when you believe in yourself,
the abundance… the abundance comes rocking in. So many of you are caught
up with abundance, we are going to readdress that soon, but don’t let
that become a cheap excuse for bad behavior. (laughter and applause)
LINDA: Good question.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 14 (a man at the microphone): I’m just really
grateful to be here today in the grace of receiving. I’m thankful for
my present lesson, which is teaching me to deal with my male authority issues.
I am from an Irish Catholic family with six older abusive brothers and father.
I was in a group for 18 years for spiritual growth. I have since left and had
to bring litigation against the leader over the home we bought together. He
and his family presently live in the same house with me and it is very stressful.
How long will it take for resolution and are there other lessons I need to learn?
TOBIAS: Yes, there are. What we’re looking here and seeing … again,
please understand Dr. Freud is just absolutely amazed. He never ... he’s
just saying his couch was such a simple place. It was so boring compared to
all of this. This is good! (laughter) The questions and, of course, the answers.
I’ll give it to you very, very simply, and we know you already know what
to do. You and I have had this discussion, and we’ve kicked it around
a number of times. This has to do with some old – I don’t even like
the word karma anymore – but old experiences that still have their energy
imprint on all of you.
Basically, the tentacles from this group and from its leaders are still very
deep into you, still very connected. They’re like … imagine an octopus
and the tentacles, the arms have gone right into you and they’re holding
you there. You find great comfort in this, and you’ve been programmed
to actually accept it.
You are – we’re trying to say this somewhat delicately but oh,
Saint-Germain says go for it – you are hypnotized by them. You are under
their control, if you would, but you refuse to let yourself go. You’re
holding the key in your hand – the key to unlock all those tentacles and
the control and the hypnosis. But you’re sitting looking at the key saying,
“I wonder what I should do? I wonder where the answer is?” Well,
the answer is in your hand, and it’s about unlocking all of those. It
is about – with the imagination – letting all of that go and letting
go also of the need to have that control in your life. You said it yourself
– control. It’s an issue. And for some reason, you’re in love
with control. You’re seduced by control, you’re limited by control,
but you love to play with control.
So let go of the need to have others control you, otherwise you’re going
to jump right into another situation you and I have talked about, and I’ve
warned you. I’ve said it has the same elements of control, giving yourself
In doing so, you’re going to encounter the most frightening thing that
you have ever encountered. It’s called yourself, (laughter) being
who you are. You shut down from that quite a while back, shut down from
being that wonderful, incredible, loving, compassionate and talented and sometimes
a little too smart human, because you’re letting others stop you. So,
let’s stop playing that game now. Control ends up being a very boring
game anyway. It’s not even that they’re stealing energy from you
or any of that, you just let them put control chips in you and control tentacles,
and let’s stop playing that game.
So your homework, since you were bold enough to come up here, three months,
we would like you to come back after you’ve released that control. If
you haven’t, don’t come back. Three months, and tell us how miserable
it is now to have let others stop controlling you. Deal?
SHAUMBRA 14: Deal.
SHAUMBRA 14: Thank you. (audience applause)
LINDA: One last quickie. One last quickie.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 15 (a man at the microphone): Okay, two very brief questions.
LINDA: No, one! (laughter)
SHAUMBRA 15: First, our sons were born a month ago.
TOBIAS: Yes. (audience applause)
SHAUMBRA 15: Thank you. So we were just wondering if we got their names right
or if they have any wishes that they want to communicate in this fashion.
TOBIAS: Well, you have an interesting situation – wonderfully, brilliant
situation, but very interesting. On your hands are one Crystal, one not. Now,
now that is no judgment in that, because they will both actually be balancing
each other. It was brilliant on their part to do this, because it is very difficult
coming in as a pure Crystal and it is perhaps a little old coming in as just
one who’s been here for many incarnations. But when they pair like they’ve
done here, you’re going to have such an incredibly magnificent example
– not just for you, but for all Shaumbra, for everybody – of how
this can work so well. It was very well planned.
SHAUMBRA 15: Yes.
TOBIAS: Names – they’re going to change their own names anyway,
so don’t worry about it. (laughter)
SHAUMBRA 15: Alright, fine. Great. Okay. So secondly, very quickly.
SHAUMBRA 15: I’m choosing to start my own business, and I’m finally
understanding what you meant when you said that I was limiting myself a while
ago. I would like to do it here in America, but I’m not letting that be
a limitation anymore. So I’m just wondering is it realistic for me expect
to do that in the short term, or should I just move abroad?
TOBIAS: It is about your choice, first of all. We are just looking at the energy
here. We’re going to say it is … everything said it is better to
launch it here, but underline the word launch. Yes.
LINDA: Really, big congratulations to your wife and we can’t wait to
see the babies. Bring pictures next time! Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 15: Thanks. (audience applause)
With that Shaumbra, it has been a day. It has been another time to gather together
again to take a look at where you are, where the world is, why you’re
here and the pure joy of life and being a new consciousness teacher.
And so it is.
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe,
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biblical Book of Tobit, can be found on the Crimson Circle web site at www.crimsoncircle.com.
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